Best version of Rhiannon

[dissention]

Originally Posted by David

Of the shows I saw & all the shows I've heard from 1991, I'd say that Irvine Meadows was the best night vocally for Stevie. But most of the other shows were embarrassments: Dallas, Wantagh, Holmdel, the pro-shot video from Mountain View, the show at the Whiskey, etc. And that band of hers that year . . . God help. They had all the personality & finesse of a runaway train with tin cans tied to the caboose. The band comprised the worst elements of AOR muscle rock like Heart & Poison -- loud, vapid & shlocky. And Stevie herself -- flat, toneless gabbling, dressed like a female impersonator's idea of Mae West (someone I know once said she dressed like an African-American woman going to Sunday church in Biloxi in 1955).

I call it Stevie's NASCAR year.

I totally agree.

But you should have seen her at the Boston show. I was expecting her to just fall over and die from boredom. Quite possibly the worst I've ever seen her. She sang as if she was snoring simultaneously. She kept looking over to the side as if she was trying to get a look at the clock to see if it was time to go back to bed yet. I got the audio boot for it a few months ago finally and it had a pre-show interview with her where she was really energetic and talkative (only like five minutes before she was to go onstage). Whatever happened in those five minutes, I guess I'll never know.

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by David

Of the shows I saw & all the shows I've heard from 1991, I'd say that Irvine Meadows was the best night vocally for Stevie. But most of the other shows were embarrassments: Dallas, Wantagh, Holmdel, the pro-shot video from Mountain View, the show at the Whiskey, etc. And that band of hers that year . . . God help. They had all the personality & finesse of a runaway train with tin cans tied to the caboose. The band comprised the worst elements of AOR muscle rock like Heart & Poison -- loud, vapid & shlocky. And Stevie herself -- flat, toneless gabbling, dressed like a female impersonator's idea of Mae West (someone I know once said she dressed like an African-American woman going to Sunday church in Biloxi in 1955).

I call it Stevie's NASCAR year.

DAVID!!!

Dallas and Holmdel are cirrculating????????????????????
Id love to get my hands on those. But as i see you are like an expert on bootlegs so im sure you have lots of goodies!

Jimmy

[David]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

DAVID!!!

Dallas and Holmdel are cirrculating????????????????????
Id love to get my hands on those.

JIMMY!!!

Check it out!! I think most of the tour is recorded -- fifteen or twenty shows at least. Check on some of the trader rings like the Underground. You'll probably find your favorites!

[AliceLover]

David are you serious?

The most ive seen is about 8 shows on major trade pages.

Do you have any info on Other Side of the Mirror shows that you could give me. I do kno a good number of them were recorded.

Thanks,
Jimmy

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

I totally agree.

But you should have seen her at the Boston show. I was expecting her to just fall over and die from boredom. Quite possibly the worst I've ever seen her. She sang as if she was snoring simultaneously. She kept looking over to the side as if she was trying to get a look at the clock to see if it was time to go back to bed yet. I got the audio boot for it a few months ago finally and it had a pre-show interview with her where she was really energetic and talkative (only like five minutes before she was to go onstage). Whatever happened in those five minutes, I guess I'll never know.

Lindsey made her mad? there weren't the right number of streamers on her mic? There weren't enough cameras there to warrant going all out? She overindulged in crab cakes before the show, and it caught up with her? She took a puff off a doob? she couldn't breathe in her tight-a** corset? She wanted to "let her boobs do the talking"?
AMber

[David]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

David are you serious? The most ive seen is about 8 shows on major trade pages. Do you have any info on Other Side of the Mirror shows that you could give me. I do kno a good number of them were recorded.

I'm the wrong guy to ask about tapes from these years, but there are a lot of them out there. There's even some video, like the 1991 Jones Beach show & the 1989 Los Angeles show at the Greek Theatre. I think there's even some video of the 1989 Toronto show with "Talk to Me" or "Juliet," as well as the video from the Cal Expo show in Sacramento (I skipped a graduate seminar to attend that concert -- in retrospect, I should have gone to class). Plus, there is audio from some of the 1989 European dates, including Paris (the Paris show I remember because it's a good clear recording with plenty of treble & bass). You probably already have the two pro-shot videos -- 1989 & 1991 -- both shot at Shoreline Amphitheatre.

[AliceLover]

as well as the video from the Cal Expo show in Sacramento (I skipped a graduate seminar to attend that concert

Wow I am very interested in this!

You probably already have the two pro-shot videos -- 1989 & 1991 -- both shot at Shoreline Amphitheatre.[/QUOTE]


Yes David got both of these and they are both outstanding to me. I went into that trade web ring thing and i found an excellent site hopefully ill be getting an email soon!

Jimmy

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by David

And Stevie herself -- flat, toneless gabbling, dressed like a female impersonator's idea of Mae West (someone I know once said she dressed like an African-American woman going to Sunday church in Biloxi in 1955).

I call it Stevie's NASCAR year.

What the f**k was up with those hair extensions that she had paper-clipped to her temples?!?!

With all the yanking and pulling and caressing she did with those thangs, I'm surprised they didn't fall off!

[David]

Originally Posted by sparky

I hate to break it to you, but that end part is all a studio overdub.

Another thread on the Stevie board reminded me. Did you guys know that the "Stand Back" & "Leather & Lace" from Oakland '83 were vocal redubs, too? I think "Beauty & the Beast" from that broadcast was authentic, but the other two were phony! Good vocals, but phony.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by The Tower

What the f**k was up with those hair extensions that she had paper-clipped to her temples?!?!

With all the yanking and pulling and caressing she did with those thangs, I'm surprised they didn't fall off!

Then there was that whole Arsenio Hall appearance in that time period. When she wiped that fake tear with a vacant expression at the end of Love's a Hard Game to Play - well some things are better left unsaid

[dissention]

Originally Posted by David

I'm the wrong guy to ask about tapes from these years, but there are a lot of them out there. There's even some video, like the 1991 Jones Beach show & the 1989 Los Angeles show at the Greek Theatre. I think there's even some video of the 1989 Toronto show with "Talk to Me" or "Juliet," as well as the video from the Cal Expo show in Sacramento (I skipped a graduate seminar to attend that concert -- in retrospect, I should have gone to class). Plus, there is audio from some of the 1989 European dates, including Paris (the Paris show I remember because it's a good clear recording with plenty of treble & bass). You probably already have the two pro-shot videos -- 1989 & 1991 -- both shot at Shoreline Amphitheatre.

That Toronto video is painful. It's so out of focus and blurry that she just looks like a blob. Greek Theatre is better, but she's immobile...sort of like that hair of hers.

[AliP]

Sorry to bring this thread out of retirement, but I was just reading the BN board where someone was asking about a live performance of Rhiannon where she screams "Is that what you want from me" or something to that effect. I guess Mick talked about it in his book. Forgive me if this was already discussed in another thread, but I've already searched the threads for about an hour looking for it. So anyway...does anyone know what performance this is from? Also does anyone know what performance it was that her voice cracked really bad on Rhiannon that Mick also talks about in his book? Thanks!

[David]

Originally Posted by AliP

Sorry to bring this thread out of retirement, but I was just reading the BN board where someone was asking about a live performance of Rhiannon where she screams "Is that what you want from me" or something to that effect. I guess Mick talked about it in his book. Forgive me if this was already discussed in another thread, but I've already searched the threads for about an hour looking for it. So anyway...does anyone know what performance this is from?

That's just a vocal vamp that she threw in a bunch of Rhiannons on the last month of the 1980 tour. If you can find any of those August shows (Mobile soundboard, Hollywood Bowl #1 or #2, Lakeland, Tucson, Birmingham, Atlanta, Oklahoma City, etc.), you'll hear Stevie sing "Is that what you want?" in a couple of different ways. The best sound quality recording is the Mobile soundboard. Tiff posted it a few months ago.

Mick makes it sound as if it happened once, but Stevie did it for weeks.

[AliP]

Originally Posted by David

That's just a vocal vamp that she threw in a bunch of Rhiannons on the last month of the 1980 tour. If you can find any of those August shows (Mobile soundboard, Hollywood Bowl #1 or #2, Lakeland, Tucson, Birmingham, Atlanta, Oklahoma City, etc.), you'll hear Stevie sing "Is that what you want?" in a couple of different ways. The best sound quality recording is the Mobile soundboard. Tiff posted it a few months ago.

Mick makes it sound as if it happened once, but Stevie did it for weeks.

Ok, thanks David! I have several of those shows so I will have to take a listen. Do you know anything about the ones where her voice cracks really bad?