Glenn Frey passes away

[Macfanforever]

I enjoys these tunes.

[elle]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Ha, modern music. To think these are more than twenty years old.
I used to love Pearl Jam (and Nirvana, Smashing Pumkins etc) as a teenager and back then they used to be super-cool grungers with their long hair, cut-off jeans and lumber jack shirts. You see them today and they're still great but they're grown-up respectable parents with sensible haircuts and tidy clothes.

also Soundgarden and STP (however much hipsters of the time were apparently spitting on STP but i loved their songs and they were great in concert).

many of those from the 90s who survived are ageing nicely and figured out how to still stay relevant and making new music. catching Chris Cornell when he does solo acoustic tours is a special treat - his shows make it very clear why live shows are worth it as opposed to just listening to the recordings, and of course his is still one of the best voices in rock!

[elle]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Honestly, it's the "singing" I can't stand. There's no melody. There's no harmony. WHY do these guys keep YELLING at me?

If there's no melody or harmony, I wanna punch someone...

lol no wonder you don't like Nicks much!

seriously though, so many of the grunge era songs have plenty of melody. that said, hey what do i know, i like LB, and while he is a good example of melodic rock he also loves yelling and screaming and i enjoy that too!

of course, one cannot usually understand a word of what Vedder's singing.

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by elle

of course, one cannot usually understand a word of what Vedder's singing.

How dare you.
(apologies for hijacking this Glenn Frey thread)

Cornell has a great voice- You Know My Name is one of the best Bond songs ever. However, I'd personally take Eddie Vedders voice any day.

How could you not understand these;

a bit of Elvis;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eeoQEsekmw

a bit of Dylan/Jimi;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHBSvpzI7Tw
(warning: some shouting).

How can anyone not love those?

Back on topic:
Though I appreciate the Eagles and respect their songwriting skills, I can't say I've ever been a big, big fan. Mainy because I dont find there to be enough angst/grit in their music. I've only ever been able to listen to them in short doses- usually in the car on a hot, sunny day.
Nevertheless Glenn's passing is a real shock- they are a band I've never seen but would have liked to have done (just to say I've seen them as they are one of the truly iconic bands). Its a shame to hear he suffered so much pain. I know he had a pretty damned good life though.

[SisterNightroad]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

It's so funny that you say that. Because circa 1990, I was still listening to rock, or TRYING to! Then, I went out and bought Nirvana's Nevermind, and Pearl Jam's Ten.

...And I TRIED to like them both. I really did. For MONTHS. I couldn't. I HATED THEM BOTH EQUALLY!!! If "this" is what rock had become, I was over it. And it was because of both of those albums, that I began listening to country. My beloved FM and Eagles weren't doing sh*t, and this CRAP is what I was left with??? I had to walk down a different avenue, and I did for quite a few years. At least until FM and The Eagles got back together.

Couldn't stand even Smashing Pumpkins?
It was also the time of the spreading of heavy metal.

[elle]

extending the apologies below...

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

How dare you.
(apologies for hijacking this Glenn Frey thread)

Cornell has a great voice- You Know My Name is one of the best Bond songs ever. However, I'd personally take Eddie Vedders voice any day.

How could you not understand these;

a bit of Elvis;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eeoQEsekmw

a bit of Dylan/Jimi;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHBSvpzI7Tw
(warning: some shouting).

How can anyone not love those?

oh i love Eddie! that doesn't mean i can understand every word he's singing (or even the whole strings of words lol).

i love that they do covers. i was at a PJ show the day Lou Reed died, and they did several things to honor him, including a cover of his I'm Waiting for the Man. it was great and so utterly appropriate.

[Macfanforever]

Me too with apologies of hijacking .

I saw this piece on ET on Glenn the other day.

[Missy]

I don't know all of their work but some songs I still like very much. Especially those cowritten by Frey. My 15 year old of course is always playing Hotel California on his guitar.

I cannot believe some of the negative articles being written about the band while there are glowing tributes to Bowie. I'm a big Bowie fan but there were artistic mistakes he made in his career, songs and albums that badly misfired. Every long term artist has those moments.

Many grunge music artists however were closet fans of Bowie and Fleetwood Mac. I believe that helped them survive the 90s cultural shifts. Have to admit that's how I probably became aware if them, because I missed their first phase.

[elle]

Originally Posted by Missy

Many grunge music artists however were closet fans of Bowie and Fleetwood Mac. I believe that helped them survive the 90s cultural shifts. Have to admit that's how I probably became aware if them, because I missed their first phase.

i had to laugh at your use of the word closet. you mean Nirvana covering in 1993, at the top of their fame and influence, a 1970 Bowie song is defined as a "closet fan"?

even Trent Reznor grew up on Bowie. (not grunge but 90s, and recorded and toured with Bowie towards the end of 90s, which of course most NIN fans didn't exactly appreciate. )

and then of course, Pumpkins and Hole covers of FM songs.

[elle]

Originally Posted by elle

i had to laugh at your use of the word closet. you mean Nirvana covering in 1993, at the top of their fame and influence, a 1970 Bowie song is defined as a "closet fan"?

even Trent Reznor grew up on Bowie. (not grunge but 90s, and recorded and toured with Bowie towards the end of 90s, which of course most NIN fans didn't exactly appreciate. )

and then of course, Pumpkins and Hole covers of FM songs.

btw really nice write-up from Trent on Bowie in RS commemorative issue:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...0160126?page=2

about the Eagles, i think i read that in some article somewhere recently, how grunge / 90s rockers kinda brought back FM (well and there was Bill Clinton!) from the laughing stock they became at the end of the 80s (I'd rather jack and all that) but that renewed appreciation never happened in that way for the Eagles.

[Missy]

Though it probably wasn't cool at first, I think over time it became more acceptable to like FM or Bowie. Courtney Love, Smashing Pumpkins, Red Hot Chili Peppers - big fans of Fleetwood Mac.

I remember that godawful song 'I'd Rather Jack (than Fleetwood Mac)'. Was there ever anything worse than Stock Aitken and Waterman? But it seemed like most of the top ten were songs by them at one point - in Australia anyway. There's a lot of nostalgia about the 80s now, but not all of it was that good. I was in my teens but listening to a lot of 60s and 70s music instead.

Of course Stevie was around in the 80s but going through her Klonopin phase. After Bowie and Jagger did 'Dancing In The Streets' - well it seemed like it couldn't get any worse. But let's face it if you have a career for 30-40 years, you're not always going to get it right.

I should have been more of a grunge fan but wasn't really, except for that which was more tuneful and melodic. I will listen to any genre if it has a good melody and lyrics. Doesn't matter if it's Frank Sinatra or Black Sabbath. But if I had to pick a specific era I would still say 1970s were the best.