They have no choice but to do a greatest hits tour...here's why..

[mike_nh]

If you go back and watch the destiny rules dvd stevie mentions that because of what
the music business is today they need to attract a much younger audinece. And the
young people today are not into classic rock like they once were. Fleetwood Mac tried
putting out a new album with say you will back in 03 but eventhough half of the songs on it were older ones written in the 70's it still didn't sell well enough in today's world.

Older groups sold well back in the day because radio played their songs. Today older groups
can't get their music played because people like carrie underwood,taylor swift.and the rap
stars are all trying to capture the top spot. I honestly think fleetwood mac knows that
with the way it is today,christine not being there,the ages they are,and the lack of
good songwriting this is the only way to keep their name out there.

So i really don't buy it when lindsey says that they are touring for the first time without a new cd because it's a good way to reconnect with the fans. Truth is this tour is only
about if this band can survive much longer.

If you look at the 2 songwriters in the band now..can you really say the song writing is as good as it once was?

Lindsey will never sell out a 20,000 seat arena on his own
And Stevie, If you look at the songs she has written since she came off of coke in 1986
Anything that was written post 1986 has not been too great. The songs of stevie's that
people love within the last 10 years have been songs that were written by her in the 70's
and have been put on newer albums.

So I think this tour is MUCH more then just a greatest hits tour. Time will tell.

[Hawkeye]

I disagree with about everything you wrote. First of all they older artists can't sell anymore is bull****. The Eagles and ACDC just sold millions of albums. Fleetwood Mac sucks at marketing.

Lindsey's not gonna sell out a 20,000 seat arena? well neither is Stevie or even Fleetwood Mac

My biggest disagreement is in that neither songwriter can write good songs anymore. Lindsey's output the last decade is the best batch of songs of his career (the songs scattered throughout GOS, UTS and SYW) outside of his 9 Tusk songs. And Stevie not having any good songs that aren't from the 70's. The title track from TISL maybe my favorite Stevie song of all time. And then there's FAll From Grace, Destiny Rules, Illume, Everybody Finds Out and a few others. Her danm problem isn't lack of good material, it's laziness.

[Madelow]

Hello Mike, Unfortunately, sad as it is, you've hit the nail on the head. I think Mick realizes it, too. The "Mick's Blues Band" is his musical future. Sure hope it works out! Best always, Madelow.

[Peestie]

Originally Posted by mike_nh

If you look at the 2 songwriters in the band now..can you really say the song writing is as good as it once was?

Lindsey will never sell out a 20,000 seat arena on his own
And Stevie, If you look at the songs she has written since she came off of coke in 1986
Anything that was written post 1986 has not been too great. The songs of stevie's that
people love within the last 10 years have been songs that were written by her in the 70's
and have been put on newer albums.

I think Lindsey's are just as good as anything he did in the 70's. I actually listen to his newest stuff (OoTC, SYW, UTS and GOS) more than I listen to his FM stuff from the 70s, perhaps with the exception of Tusk which gets equal listens. Sure, he'll not sell out a 20,000 arena on his own but he doesn't expect to and neither does anyone else. It doesn't mean his songs aren't as good as they once were.

As for Stevie... well, I don't have any of her solo albums but I think her songs on SYW are great. I can only compare to her FM stuff but it's certainly the best group of songs she's had since Tusk so I'm not ready to write her off as a songwriter just yet.

[mike_nh]

ok i'll admit that some of stevie's newer songs are ok but as far as the songs on tisl goes i think it could have been a much stronger album if sheryl crow didn't have as much control as she did. She produced half the album and i think thats where stevie's confoidence
started to suffer. She gave sheryl half the album,brought her out on tour,did tv with her,
and tried to get her as a member of fleetwood mac. If thats not a crutch then i have no clue what is. It kinda makes you wonder if stevie's songwriting ''magic'' was the drugs?

[fleetwoodtrick]

[QUOTE=mike_nh;800679]ok i'll admit that some of stevie's newer songs are ok but as far as the songs on tisl goes i think it could have been a much stronger album if sheryl crow didn't have as much control as she did. She produced half the album and i think thats where stevie's confoidence
started to suffer. She gave sheryl half the album,brought her out on tour,did tv with her,
and tried to get her as a member of fleetwood mac. If thats not a crutch then i have no clue what is. It kinda makes you wonder if stevie's songwriting ''magic'' was the drugs?[/QUOTE]


Excuse me? What about the Buckingham Nicks songs? I don't believe Stevie was on drugs then. Her voice was much too pure. Unless I'm totally wrong, I think you need to back up your opinions a little more.

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The only thing that really matters is that FM does have fans. I am going to love Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks's songs forever, no matter what happens to them. They also have a large obcessed fanbase. Why else would we all be here? Though I'm questioning your loyalty right now.

[mylittledemon]

I disagree too. Fleetwood Mac's marketing is terrible. They can still sell a million copies. Look at the Eagles album they put out in Walmart a year ago. It's possible. Fleetwood Mac, I daresay, is as popular if not MORE popular than the Eagles.

I think the problem with Fleetwood Mac is...The appeal of the band is that "core" group that was broken after The Dance. So, to fix the problem they need to make another album with Christine McVie. It needs to be a more cohesive CD...not like Say You Will. I love that album though. The band is fully aware that the money to be made is, of course, in touring. BIG money isn't to be made off making the record itself anymore.

I think if anything, Say You Will was made out of some form of integrity the band is trying to uphold. Especially Lindsey. He probably didn't want to tour without making an album...& it ended up being the mish mash that it is of his and Stevies tunes. To go out and tour with no album? It is just as a nostalgia fest. That's what this current tour feels like to me to some degree. And that's ok too.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Peestie

As for Stevie... well, I don't have any of her solo albums but I think her songs on SYW are great.

OMG you don't have ANY of her solo albums? I didn't think it was possible for a FM fan to say this.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by vivfox

OMG you don't have ANY of her solo albums? I didn't think it was possible for a FM fan to say this.

Oh I could see that for sure, not owning one of Stevie's solo albums. On the other hand, I'd have a very hard time believing any FM fan (of the '75-'87, '97-now version anyway) doesn't know some key SN solo songs...Edge of 17, Stand Back, Leather and Lace, Stop Dragging My Heart Around....if someone was on here saying they hadn't heard of at least some of her solo work well, I would be 100% dumbfounded.

[wolfontherun]

Originally Posted by jmn3

Oh I could see that for sure, not owning one of Stevie's solo albums. On the other hand, I'd have a very hard time believing any FM fan (of the '75-'87, '97-now version anyway) doesn't know some key SN solo songs...Edge of 17, Stand Back, Leather and Lace, Stop Dragging My Heart Around....if someone was on here saying they hadn't heard of at least some of her solo work well, I would be 100% dumbfounded.

Yup. And to anyone who does not have a SN album you need to get BD now. That is her one work that most resembles her FM stuff but spared down. If you like her work on Tusk then you will like BD as well.

[nightbird28]

i think Fm has to embrace their fans and actually try. I think the Eagles and even Heart do a better job. I mean The Eagles released Long Road to Eden at Walmart and it became one of their highest selling cds. They went out and made real videos for How Long and Too Busy Being Fabulous. They didn't do just a stage shot video. They actually promoted the **** out of the cd. Releasing special editions playing a few specials. When's the last time FM did a tv special that wasn't just them like a performance on the Grammy's, People Choice...any of those shows. Radio interviews but they are short and not consistent enough. Lindsey did a lot of them for UTS and GOS and i think it helped.

Heart tours constantly since I think 1998 every year, new album or not. They do a great show they are always packed. They just know how to mix it up do some covers on stage, Led Zepplin, Elton John, Joni Mitchell. You can tell they are enjoying the interaction. I think they even did a vote on their website a couple years for what song do you want them play the hear most. And before Jupiter's Darling was released they tested the new songs live and more. They always do new promo shots every year.

Fm should kick their stupid management company and get whoever either of these bands have and they'd at least get new fans by the boat loads.

[Peestie]

Originally Posted by vivfox

OMG you don't have ANY of her solo albums? I didn't think it was possible for a FM fan to say this.

Nope, not a single one. I know a couple of her solo songs (EO17, Stand Back and I have maybe once heard Rooms On Fire) and none of them made me excited enough to buy her solo stuff or even seek out more singles to listen to on Youtube. I have been meaning to get Bella Donna but it's just not near the top of my list so I've not got round to it yet.

Oh I could see that for sure, not owning one of Stevie's solo albums. On the other hand, I'd have a very hard time believing any FM fan (of the '75-'87, '97-now version anyway) doesn't know some key SN solo songs...Edge of 17, Stand Back, Leather and Lace, Stop Dragging My Heart Around....if someone was on here saying they hadn't heard of at least some of her solo work well, I would be 100% dumbfounded.

I know two of those and I've only ever heard the live FM versions of Stand Back.

I guess I'll have to pick something up soon...

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Peestie

I guess I'll have to pick something up soon...

Please buy Rock-A-Little first. Well I think you will like Sister Honey, she will make you change up your mind...

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Please buy Rock-A-Little first. Well I think you will like Sister Honey, she will make you change up your mind...

dude, no. that's like telling someone who's interested in fleetwood mac to start with behind the mask. it's gotta be bella donna.

[Villavic]

Don't confuse a great/good song with popular success. Yes, new songs won't be as popular as their 70s (and even 80s) song.

Seen as a pop band, there's only a certain time when you have the eyes and the ears and the minds of the young people (let's face it, they are the mass market). And one shouldn't try to push it, because it'll become wrong and the whole thing could collapse.

So I think what they are doing is ok. But if they want to release a new album, that's fine if we judge their work as the artists they are, not as commercial hits, cause probably they won't have a Rumours or Tango again.

And I say probably because you never know.. sometimes the rule is broken, like Cher did he heee