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Old 08-25-2008, 09:21 PM
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Alas, Teddy Kennedy. A contradiction to be sure, but I teared up seeing him.



I suppose we should put all the DNC chat in this thread.
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Alas, Teddy Kennedy, but I teared up seeing him.
yeah me too, crocodile tears.
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:38 PM
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yeah me too, crocodile tears.
Meh - he has terminal brain cancer amd is the very last of an outstanding generation -- so, I cut him a break.
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Meh - he has terminal brain cancer amd is the very last of an outstanding generation -- so, I cut him a break.
Of course I wasn't joking about his illness.

But the "last" of an outstanding generation? Ted Kennedy?
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I didn't get to *see* him speak, but the convention was live on NPR so I heard it as I was driving home.

Whoever was speaking used the sea as a metaphor (was it Caroline's speech or the videoclip?)

...about how the water meant a lot to Teddy coming from Massachusetts and teaching the younger Kennedys how to sail, etc., etc.

My mind began to wander -- and remember 1969 -- and how water figured so dramatically in Ted's life.

But the mantra about Teddy being a senator from Mass and being everybody's advocate, brought me back to 2008.

The NPR guys described the scene as everyone in the hall having a Kennedy sign and that it was very moving....the highlight of the night.

When I asked my husband about the signs, he said, he never saw one. (He was watching CNN's coverage.)

Enough of my rambling...here are a couple questions.

1. What was the visual like? The TV coverage of the convention hall...did the delegates seem interested in listening to the speeches, or did they look tired and bored?

2. On the radio, the announcers kept interrupting to talk amongst themselves...which I hated. I wanted to hear the convention, not the radio-know-it-alls....and the topic was if and how the Clintons are gonna upstage Obama and take over the convention. Was anything along those lines mentioned on TV?

BTW... #3. Anybody read Rolling Stone? Here's two interesting articles:
August 21, 2008 Michael Moore "How the Democrats Can Blow it"
Sept. 4, 2008 - How Bush Destroyed the Republican Party by Sean Wilentz

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Don't be dissing the Kennedys. They did alot for this country and could have done alot more good if two of them weren't assasinated , unlike that other political dynsasty that have runied it perhaps for years.
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Don't be dissing the Kennedys. They did alot for this country and could have done alot more good if two of them weren't assasinated , unlike that other political dynsasty that have runied it perhaps for years.
You mean JFK escalating our military and political commitments in Vietnam?
Look how that war ended.

And as far as the other political dynasty, how's the Iraq thing going? Oh yeah,
we are winning no thanks to the Democrats.
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Of course I wasn't joking about his illness.

But the "last" of an outstanding generation? Ted Kennedy?
I know you were joking

I was talking about the leaders of the 60's. His brothers John and Robert were pretty great leaders - Ted is the last of that generation
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Of course I wasn't joking about his illness.

But the "last" of an outstanding generation? Ted Kennedy?
You took the words right out of my mouth.. or the thoughts right out of my brain.
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You took the words right out of my mouth..
I rather amazes me that you venerate Ronald Reagan for a thing done while Gov. of Calif. and apparently completely ignore his bad acts as Pres., which were many. Yet, you cannot do the same for The Kennedy's, who have done many good if not great things for America despite their personal lives.

I think it would be interesting to see exactly what people hate about the Kennedy's voting records and policies.

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or the thoughts right out of my brain.
I think you give yourself too much credit
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