Lindsey and Mick: Shorn for the 1978 Tour

[David]

Of all the loves in Fleetwood Mac, I think the one between Lindsey & Mick was the greatest & deepest. It was a meeting-of-minds, a mutual pledge of troth, & a true friendship, like the friendship in "Brideshead Revisited." It ended, or nearly ended, in self-immolation for Mick (the Sebastian Flyte character) & an emotional turning-away & a hardening followed by a softening for Lindsey (the Charles Ryder character).

I also think there was a strong sense of cross-identification between the two, which may have reached its zenith on the 1978 tour, when both of them shaved off their beards & moustaches. I'm interested in what others think.

[michelej1]

I think Mick's love for Peter and John surpasses his love for Lindsey, but I do think it's a very special relationship. In the SYW program, Lindsey said something about the bandmembers not being able to admit their love for each other for a long time, but when it came to Mick, I think it's the one relationship in the band, in which he never really had to suppress his feelings, good, bad or vulnerable.

Many of his songs have certainly been inspired greatly by Mick, whether conceptually or because of Mick's drumming. Michele

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I think Mick's love for Peter and John surpasses his love for Lindsey, but I do think it's a very special relationship.

I agree. But it's special anyway. I think Mick loves every member of Fleetwood Mac that gave a special touch and dedication to the band. About Peter and John is greater cause they were the pals at the very beginning, when they were unknown, not rich, and young. But his love to Stevie, Chris or Lindsey is strong, too.

[trackaghost]

But didn't Mick kinda betray Lindsey in a way by getting it on with his old girlfriend?

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

But didn't Mick kinda betray Lindsey in a way by getting it on with his old girlfriend?

It seems like that, but who knows how they felt. In the BTMusic show, Lindsey said something like "It just happened", he didn't show a big anger about it, it was like another line in the tiger skin.. or so I understood.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by Villavic

It seems like that, but who knows how they felt. In the BTMusic show, Lindsey said something like "It just happened", he didn't show a big anger about it, it was like another line in the tiger skin.. or so I understood.

Have you listened to Tusk?

[trackaghost]

Yeah, but it's easier to be calm about it years after the event. I definitely think Lindsey took that news hard.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

But didn't Mick kinda betray Lindsey in a way by getting it on with his old girlfriend?

Don't forget Mr. Rock Cock's lovely book.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by danax6

Don't forget Mr. Rock Cock's lovely book.

Ahhh yes, who could forget that little ego trip.
I mean there must be something there between Mick and Lindsey, otherwise how could he manage to convince Linds time and time again to turn his solo projects into Mac albums, although I suspect Mick's just a great manipulator and charmer. I don't think he's a great friend though, going after a fellow bandmember's ex (and then dumping her for her friend) and then years later dishing the dirt on him.
The fact that he acted as a kind of mediator in that group and managed to allow the band to continue for so long benefited him, and John, more than anyone I'd say.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by danax6

Don't forget Mr. Rock Cock's lovely book.

Then Lindsey did the BTM concerts immediately thereafter. Probably his brother dying helped mend that rift (if there was one from Mick's book) quicker than it normally would have healed.

Funny how Mick says that from the very beginning Lindsey thought there was something between Mick and Stevie and said so to Mick when they were high early on.

Many times during the SYW intros Mick would kiss Lindsey. I don't think he was even kissing Stevie when he introduced her, just Linds. But he never curled up in bed and spooned with him like he did Peter -- that we know of.

Michele

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I think Mick's love for Peter and John surpasses his love for Lindsey, but I do think it's a very special relationship.

You're right, I think. Mick and John are like brothers and, to this day, Mick is still in awe of Peter.

Nonetheless, Mick and Lindsey are strangely connected. Mick's major MO is to keep the Mac running and touring for as long as he can. Lindsey's energies are far more self-directed, and he'd have said goodbye to the band for good--if he could. But something pulls him back. I think Lindsey NEEDS Mick's passion just as much as Mick needs Lindsey's brains and charisma. Moreover, both of them need one another commercially. They might enjoy solo and side projects, but they keep coming back to the Mac, that brand name that'll be guarantee at least a respectable amount of sales and, hence, give Mick some solvency and Lindsey a few more years of artistic freedom.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by David

Of all the loves in Fleetwood Mac, I think the one between Lindsey & Mick was the greatest & deepest.

You're so funny. I suppose we can bring up Lindsey cutting his hair in 1978 as well.

[michelej1]

It's very fitting that Mick likes to play songs from Tusk in his solo sets because I think his ideas influenced many of them.

Michele