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Old 06-09-2006, 02:48 AM
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Thumbs up "Sara" Video from Tusk doc

I was just watching this, and although I am sure many of you have a copy, I just felt like sharing it, for those who don't have a digital copy.
Sorry about the "play" icon at the beginning, and the "Fleetwood Mac Attack" it is actually the footage from the Tusk doc, but this copy must have been rebroadcast on TV as an individual video.

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Old 06-09-2006, 11:09 AM
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this copy must have been rebroadcast on TV as an individual video.
Yeah it was for a bunch of things like Don Kirshner's Rock Concert & Casey Kasem's Top 10 & other stuff like that.

We need the video of that whole song: the uncut "Sara" because they cut out a third of the song for the film. (Fleetwood Mac never cut it in performance.) You can at least hear the whole performance on the 11.06.79 soundboard.
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Old 06-09-2006, 11:11 AM
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You can at least hear the whole performance on the 11.06.79 soundboard.
aww I was almost 3 months old! I feel old.

do you have this to post?

I always wonder what Stevie/FM were doing on my birthday.

anyway, thanks for posting this. when she grabs Lindsey's mic I want to burst into tears. that part makes me so sad, for some reason.

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Old 06-09-2006, 12:20 PM
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aww I was almost 3 months old! I feel old.

do you have this to post?
Here y'all:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...122F7C2A6705DC

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when she grabs Lindsey's mic I want to burst into tears. that part makes me so sad, for some reason.
You chiffonies are entirely too moist. Always weeping, sobbing, mewling, soaking or otherwise gunking everything up with your overactive waterworks. Cut it out! You'll get moldy.
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Old 06-09-2006, 12:25 PM
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You'll get moldy.
And we know what mold does to the human resperatory system.
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Old 06-09-2006, 01:02 PM
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You chiffonies are entirely too moist. Always weeping, sobbing, mewling, soaking or otherwise gunking everything up with your overactive waterworks. Cut it out! You'll get moldy.
thank you.
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Old 06-09-2006, 10:38 PM
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I do love this video, and the full soundboard version even more. The guitar work is just great...subtle...but great.
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Yeah it was for a bunch of things like Don Kirshner's Rock Concert & Casey Kasem's Top 10 & other stuff like that.

We need the video of that whole song: the uncut "Sara" because they cut out a third of the song for the film. (Fleetwood Mac never cut it in performance.) You can at least hear the whole performance on the 11.06.79 soundboard.
Interestingly enough, they used some of that cut footage as filler in the final piece. As an editor, I notice shots that don't quite sync up. One example is the shot during the final verse "but if you build your house then call me home..." Lindsey is walking toward Christine who is looking toward the stage. As a new close-up fades in on the 2 of them from behind, you can tell they're both singing the chorus, "sara." Another good example, the clip after the piano intro that starts with the close-up of Mick and then zooming out to a full shot of the entire stage is actually the footage before "Hold on, the night is coming..." If you sync up the actual audio to these parts, you can get it to work. I did this in my complete boredom, yet curiousity, years ago.

Out of all the performances I've ever heard of that song, that one is still the best. There are others that come close (Japan, Cleveland). But she just seemed to melt into that song. Most likely, fueled for the cameras and the newness of the song.

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It's a great performance... oddly enough, this is also the performance of Sara used on Fleetwood Mac Live, but Stevie overdubbed much of the vocals, and Lindsay and Chris dubbed in the "Ahhhhs" and "Sara" stuff that they weren't doing live for some reason....

I think the video version is interesting because Lindsay's mic sounds like it's off... or just on some quiet reverb or something... It blares on the soundboard though.

I'm always sad to hear the SYW tour versions of this because she doesn't hold out the end like she does on the video.
On the FM Live version, you can actually hear the "ghost" of the original vocal at certain quiet parts.

I like the version on the video with the reverbed Lindsey mic. They must have done that in postproduction. It was a nice touch.

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Old 06-10-2006, 11:27 AM
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Interestingly enough, they used some of that cut footage as filler in the final piece. As an editor, I notice shots that don't quite sync up. One example is the shot during the final verse "but if you build your house then call me home..." Lindsey is walking toward Christine who is looking toward the stage. As a new close-up fades in on the 2 of them from behind, you can tell they're both singing the chorus, "sara." Another good example, the clip after the piano intro that starts with the close-up of Mick and then zooming out to a full shot of the entire stage is actually the footage before "Hold on, the night is coming..." If you sync up the actual audio to these parts, you can get it to work. I did this in my complete boredom, yet curiousity, years ago.
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Out of all the performances I've ever heard of that song, that one is still the best. There are others that come close (Japan, Cleveland). But she just seemed to melt into that song. Most likely, fueled for the cameras and the newness of the song.
Oh come on. The performance that's on film officially just happens to be the best? Fans always say that. I mean, what about performances from Providence (Nov. 22), Los Angeles (Dec. 10), etc., plus all those great performances on the Mirage tour?
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On the FM Live version, you can actually hear the "ghost" of the original vocal at certain quiet parts.
Hmm... cool. I can hear the opening stanza as well as the "All I ever wanted" at the end, & those are both legit.
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I like the version on the video with the reverbed Lindsey mic. They must have done that in postproduction. It was a nice touch.
Have you compared the film of "Angel" with the soundboard of it?

The question about "Sara"--which is the most blatant rerecord of lead vocal on the entire Live album--is WHEN did she do this? She obviously had some sort of bronchial situation going on, recovering from a chest cold. But I saw her play with John Stewart after the Tusk tour ended, very shortly before the Live album was released, & she weren't sick or singing differently. So I believe she must have done the "Sara" rerecord during some break on the Tusk tour, like July. Maybe she got a summer cold in Los Angeles. We need these questions solved! Ask Stevie & Christine's Q&A are worthless.
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:10 PM
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Cool, Joe!
Oh come on. The performance that's on film officially just happens to be the best? Fans always say that. I mean, what about performances from Providence (Nov. 22), Los Angeles (Dec. 10), etc., plus all those great performances on the Mirage tour?
Hmm... cool. I can hear the opening stanza as well as the "All I ever wanted" at the end, & those are both legit.
Have you compared the film of "Angel" with the soundboard of it?

The question about "Sara"--which is the most blatant rerecord of lead vocal on the entire Live album--is WHEN did she do this? She obviously had some sort of bronchial situation going on, recovering from a chest cold. But I saw her play with John Stewart after the Tusk tour ended, very shortly before the Live album was released, & she weren't sick or singing differently. So I believe she must have done the "Sara" rerecord during some break on the Tusk tour, like July. Maybe she got a summer cold in Los Angeles. We need these questions solved! Ask Stevie & Christine's Q&A are worthless.
I haven't heard the Providence or LA versions...On the "all I ever wanted" part, she overdubbed "was to know that you were dreaming sara."

In terms of the Tusk documentary film...This is what I deduct as being the 11-5 and 11-6 footage respectively. And I could only conclude this after hearing the 11-6 soundboard. "Not that Funny," "Angel," and "The Chain" audio is from 11-5. The video of "Angel" is most definately from that same night (11-5). Nothing seems fishy about the video/audio syncing....except in one part which I think is when they're both at the mic. "Not that Funny" could be either night. If I remember, there are a few parts that seem out of sync.

The funny thing about "The Chain" on the doc is that the video is from 11-6 but the audio is from 11-5. The footage of "The Chain" on the Tusk outtakes was from 11-5. Notice how Stevie's bun is a lot smaller on that night? The audio and video on that outtake completely matches up. But the audio made it onto the final doc. For some reason, they liked the shots from the 11-6 performance and decided to lay it over. Only obsessive diehards would notice this! One particular note, in the second verse of the line "run in the shadows etc" Stevie flubs at first and seems to start singing "break the silence" but quickly changes and it sounds like "breaaaa in the shadows etc." And the 11-5 video shows her doing this up close. And notice how they cleverly threw in that annoying audience noise to try to cover it up in the doc! Speaking of which, a friend and I used to crack up regarding the oft-overbearing audience noise. Were they trying to mimic those old Beatles tv performances where you couldn't even hear the band!? We need a version of the documentary - less the audience overdubs. Actually, I could do this on Final Cut since I have the 11-6 soundboard. I just need the 11-5 soundboard for those couple of songs. One of these days...

All the other songs on the doc are from 11-6. So, where is the 11-5 soundboard and other film footage?

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Old 06-12-2006, 09:54 PM
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In terms of the Tusk documentary film...This is what I deduct as being the 11-5 and 11-6 footage respectively. And I could only conclude this after hearing the 11-6 soundboard. "Not that Funny," "Angel," and "The Chain" audio is from 11-5. The video of "Angel" is most definately from that same night (11-5). Nothing seems fishy about the video/audio syncing....except in one part which I think is when they're both at the mic. "Not that Funny" could be either night. If I remember, there are a few parts that seem out of sync.
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The funny thing about "The Chain" on the doc is that the video is from 11-6 but the audio is from 11-5. The footage of "The Chain" on the Tusk outtakes was from 11-5. Notice how Stevie's bun is a lot smaller on that night? The audio and video on that outtake completely matches up. But the audio made it onto the final doc. For some reason, they liked the shots from the 11-6 performance and decided to lay it over. Only obsessive diehards would notice this! One particular note, in the second verse of the line "run in the shadows etc" Stevie flubs at first and seems to start singing "break the silence" but quickly changes and it sounds like "breaaaa in the shadows etc." And the 11-5 video shows her doing this up close. And notice how they cleverly threw in that annoying audience noise to try to cover it up in the doc!
I don't know, but I'm feeling slightly worried & annoyed to hear you talk about concert footage on the outtakes, since I have no onstage footage in any of my outtake material--only studio.
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Speaking of which, a friend and I used to crack up regarding the oft-overbearing audience noise. Were they trying to mimic those old Beatles tv performances where you couldn't even hear the band!?
Yes, the deafening yelling & screaming is well beyond the actual noise at any Fleetwood Mac concert I've ever been to. It does have that "Ed Sullivan Show" quality, with the shrieking & deafening roar.
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I was just watching this, and although I am sure many of you have a copy, I just felt like sharing it, for those who don't have a digital copy.
Sorry about the "play" icon at the beginning, and the "Fleetwood Mac Attack" it is actually the footage from the Tusk doc, but this copy must have been rebroadcast on TV as an individual video.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...9C54C717BD7F82
thanks for posting this! what a great performance. i don't think i've ever seen the whole thing. and i love chris's hair during the tusk era - so tousled and sexy.
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That version is definitely the best live version I've heard of Sara.
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that was really nice. thanks
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The "aaaaaah" before "the laces..." kills me. KILLS me. Moist chiffonite here!
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