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Old 11-08-2005, 09:43 PM
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Thumbs down Texans approve gay marriage ban

Can't say that I'm shocked, but I am incredibly disgusted, especially that early returns showed 74% supporting the amendment.

We actually received a recorded message from Gov. Perry yesterday, urging us to vote for this ban. D*CK!

My biggest fear (and the fear of most Texans opposed to this amendment) is that employers (esp. government employers) will start denying domestic partner benefits and that any contracts (living wills, etc.) will be considered void, because the language of the amendment is so vague, stating that "anything resembling or identical to marriage" won't be recognized.
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Texans approve gay marriage ban

08:22 PM CST on Tuesday, November 8, 2005

Dallas Morning News

With a measure to outlaw gay marriage passing easily, Texas on Tuesday became the 19th U.S. state to make the ban part of its constitution.

The area’s other attention-generating issue, a city of Dallas proposition to strengthen the mayor’s powers, was failing by the narrowest of margins. With 26,584 votes counted, the difference was less than 300 votes.

Both measures appeared to be fueling strong voter turnout, according to officials in the Dallas, Collin, Denton and Tarrant county elections offices. Dallas County Elections Administrator Bruce Sherbet said somewhere around 16 percent of registered voters cast ballots. Statewide turnout was expected to exceed the 12.2 percent recorded in 2003.

Known as Proposition 2, the Texas constitutional amendment defines marriage as between a man and a woman and bars the state and its political subdivisions from creating or recognizing "any legal status identical or similar to marriage."

In early returns, 74 percent of voters statewide said they supported the gay-marriage ban, while 26 were opposed. In Dallas County, the margin was a bit narrower, with 69 percent in favor, and 31 percent opposed.

The state's 2003 Defense of Marriage Act already prohibits marriage between same-sex couples. But Prop 2’s supporters, including conservative state legislators and Christian leaders, insisted that Texans must amend their state constitution to ban gay marriage so that "activist" judges can't challenge and overturn anti-gay marriage laws as some courts have in other states.

Opponents have said that the amendment’s ambiguous wording would jeopardize gay couples' partnership benefits and legal arrangements on everything from property issues to end-of-life questions.

If Dallas’ Proposition 1 passes, the mayor would hire and fire the city manager and craft the budget with the manager. The mayor's salary would double to $120,000. And the council would have the authority to fire the manager with a simple majority and hire a budget oversight officer to balance the mayor's fiscal power.

In May, Dallas voters rejected a proposal to give even more power to the mayor. Council members promised voters that they would offer an alternative proposal, which became Prop 1, as an enticement to get them to turn down the May ballot initiative. Since then, about half of the council has mobilized to defeat this referendum as well.

Even Mayor Laura Miller, who says she supports the measure, hasn’t gone out of her way to rally on its behalf.

Dallas voters did appear to be supporting Proposition 14, a measure that would allow the city to sell $23.8 million in bonds to build a new homeless assistance center. The city wants to build the shelter on the southeastern edge of downtown.

In Tarrant County, the hottest issue is in White Settlement, where voters were strongly opposed to changing the city's 19th century name to West Settlement. In early voting, 94 percent were against the change.

Across North Texas, voters also were going to the polls to decide on bond issues and charter amendments as well as choose city council members and school board trustees. Voters across Texas were deciding eight other constitutional amendments in addition to the gay-marriage issue.
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:45 PM
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It's sad.

But I can't say I'm surprised either.
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:45 PM
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I'm not shocked to the least bit..it was more shocking when many more states that were not so predictable as Texas did the very same thing last yr

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Old 11-08-2005, 09:47 PM
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Good. Gays should be banned from the earth to live in the depths of hell for all eternity. Sodomy lovers.
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:49 PM
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No way. Get out! I don't believe it. A liberal state like that voted to ban gay marriage? Next you'll tell me that Pat Robertson doesn't like Bill Clinton, silly.

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No way. Get out! I don't believe it. A liberal state like that voted to ban gay marriage? Next you'll tell me that Pat Robertson doesn't like Bill Clinton, silly.

Like I said, I'm not at all surprised. But it makes me miss Chicago all the more. The culture shock of moving here has been too much for me to bear.
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:39 AM
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Like I said, I'm not at all surprised. But it makes me miss Chicago all the more. The culture shock of moving here has been too much for me to bear.
No offense...but I found Chicago very racist. Now keep in mind I was born and raised in San Fran, so Chicago was culture shock for me. Glad I moved away...rather quickly at that.

As for Texas and this ban. No big surprise.
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:29 PM
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But maybe there's a loving God • • And that may be a foolish thought • Or maybe there is a God • And I have never prayed a lot • But maybe there's a loving God
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But maybe there's a loving God • • And that may be a foolish thought • Or maybe there is a God • And I have never prayed a lot • But maybe there's a loving God
You are either making fun of me!

Or you like Sara Groves too.
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:51 PM
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The problem with Texas doesn't lie with the voters, it's with the redistricting. If you can get that mess straightened out, you can start to have some semblance of balance there again. Until then, you're pretty much f*cked like Florida.
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Has anyone actually read the amendment?

Article I, Texas Constitution, (The Bill of Rights) is amended by adding Section 32 to read as follows:

(a) MARRIAGE in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman.

(b) THIS STATE or a political subdivision of THIS STATE MAY NOT CREATE OR RECOGNIZE ANY LEGAL STATUS IDENTICAL or similar to MARRIAGE.


The idiots should have added "except as defined in (a)" to (b).
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You are either making fun of me!

Or you like Sara Groves too.
My son has this CD. He left it in my car. I was on a long road and listened to it last week. This song caught my attention. These lyrics, I thought, were appropriate for this post.

I wasn't making fun of you and, yeah, I do kind of like her....
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Old 11-08-2005, 11:20 PM
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I've never had to stand in line to vote as long as I did today...of course, I voted against the amendment...as well as over 60% of the voters in MY county (Travis), where Austin is...and remember, we also elected Kerry.

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Exclamation Not surprising...

Sounds identical to Oklahoma this past November.



Only good news I saw this day was those cross bearing, homophobic, Topeka Kansas Westboro (sic) Baptist Church ass-poptarts get hammered at a local funeral for a fallen Oklahoma soldier.

They bragged their whole congregation would appear, yet only 3 members showed and left after 25 minutes....The 200+ bikers & hundreds of Oklahomans let this disturbed bible-humpers know that **** doesnt fly here.

Now their congregation is headed to Seattle to protest at some type of gay pride parade...Hammer their ass Seattle, hammer the living f**k out 'em.
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Sounds identical to Oklahoma this past November.



Only good news I saw this day was those cross bearing, homophobic, Topeka Kansas Westboro (sic) Baptist Church ass-poptarts get hammered at a local funeral for a fallen Oklahoma soldier.

They bragged their whole congregation would appear, yet only 3 members showed and left after 25 minutes....The 200+ bikers & hundreds of Oklahomans let this disturbed bible-humpers know that **** doesnt fly here.

Now their congregation is headed to Seattle to protest at some type of gay pride parade...Hammer their ass Seattle, hammer the living f**k out 'em.

For real?! They won't be welcome here at all, that's for sure... i DARE them to protest in my neighborhood. Holy ****... it would be hilaaaaaarious... they'd need a police escort to get out alive. Seriously.
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