Nobody does it better....

[Ench]

Nobody arranges and produces SN's songs anywhere near as well as LB. At least, that's the way it seems to me.

Agree or disagree?

[GypsyGirl15]

Originally Posted by Ench

Nobody arranges and produces SN's songs anywhere near as well as LB. At least, that's the way it seems to me.

Agree or disagree?

Agree. Definitely. I wish he had produced TISL.

[TrueFaith77]

Completely agree. Say You Will proves that beyond a doubt. It's her best music since Tusk.

[aleuzzi]

Everybody Finds Out shows both SN and LB stretching out in exciting ways.

[HejiraNYC]

Don't agree! I offer up "Smile at You" and "Silver Girl" as evidence. "Desiny Rules" was a great song that was poorly executed- it should have been done in a higher key and with a stronger vocal. Ditto "Say You Will." One of the primary roles of the producer is tell the artist whether something is or is not working. Songs like "Welcome to the Room... Sara", "When I See You Again" and "Silver Girl" should have definitely been aborted.

I think Stevie's best collaborators, by far, have been Jimmy Iovine and John Shanks. Stevie's worst collaborators have been Rupert Hine and Mike Campbell tied in first, with Sheryl Crow close behind. I think Lindsey is somewhere in the upper middle of the spectrum.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Don't agree! I offer up "Smile at You" and "Silver Girl" as evidence. "Desiny Rules" was a great song that was poorly executed- it should have been done in a higher key and with a stronger vocal. Ditto "Say You Will." One of the primary roles of the producer is tell the artist whether something is or is not working. Songs like "Welcome to the Room... Sara", "When I See You Again" and "Silver Girl" should have definitely been aborted.

I think Stevie's best collaborators, by far, have been Jimmy Iovine and John Shanks. Stevie's worst collaborators have been Rupert Hine and Mike Campbell tied in first, with Sheryl Crow close behind. I think Lindsey is somewhere in the upper middle of the spectrum.

I agree with this.... great points... I'll even say that Lindsey could stand to use a producer himself at times..

[David]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I think Stevie's best collaborators, by far, have been Jimmy Iovine and John Shanks.

Nothing Iovine or Shanks produced or orchestrated for Nicks is anywhere near the inventiveness & quality of GYPSY or DREAMS -- or SEVEN WONDERS, for that matter. Lindsey's well seems to me to have run dry, but there was a time when he perfectly complemented her goofy words & passionate singing.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Don't agree! I offer up "Smile at You" and "Silver Girl" as evidence. "Desiny Rules" was a great song that was poorly executed- it should have been done in a higher key and with a stronger vocal. Ditto "Say You Will." One of the primary roles of the producer is tell the artist whether something is or is not working. Songs like "Welcome to the Room... Sara", "When I See You Again" and "Silver Girl" should have definitely been aborted.

I think Stevie's best collaborators, by far, have been Jimmy Iovine and John Shanks. Stevie's worst collaborators have been Rupert Hine and Mike Campbell tied in first, with Sheryl Crow close behind. I think Lindsey is somewhere in the upper middle of the spectrum.

I agree that at one time Lindsey was the magic maker for Stevie's songs. That time period would have been 1975-1982. Since then, I think he's hurt her more than helped her. Just listen to her Tango In The Night tracks... aweful. Her Say You Will tracks aren't much better. Just listen to the original Thrown Down from her solo sessions with Lindsey (aka the Wall of Sound version), and see how much better it is than what ended up on Say You Will. Same goes for Smile At You and Silver Girl... also MUCH better as DEMOS than what ended up on Say You Will. I do just ADORE Destiny Rules though... one of their better collaborations EVER!

I don't know... I just think Lindsey maybe has a talent for bringing out Stevie's true self in her songs. When she was at her creative pinnacle and was soberish (1975-1982) Lindsey definitely brought out her true talent and polished it to a sheen. When she started to go downhill creatively and personally (1985-?) he certainly had a talent at showing she was drying up. If Stevie gives him strong material to work with, he can do great things. If what she gives him is less than great, he showcases that as well. Case and point, Stevie's voice certainly had weakened by the time of Say You Will. Instead of trying to hide that behind vocal layering and such, he just left her vocals mostly bare and put it right out there (ala the SYW Thrown Down vs the Wall o' Sound version). Sans Destiny Rules, he just left her voice bare and unadorned... no layering, no cave-ish echo, he let it be known her range isn't what it used to be, she's more nasal, flat, etc. I don't necessarily think it's a form of revenge like she's suggested, but I think it's instead his way as an artist of capturing a moment in time, much the same way a photographer would do (no painting vs movie jokes!!! LOL).

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

One of the primary roles of the producer is tell the artist whether something is or is not working. Songs like "Welcome to the Room... Sara", "When I See You Again" and "Silver Girl" should have definitely been aborted.

yeah right,
like if ms Nicks would have any collaboration left on Tango. She was just Bad those days.

I think Silver Girl would have been dropped if Lindsey did NOT have had his time off from the band. He just wanted to be there too much.

[Skyveris]

Originally Posted by Ench

Nobody arranges and produces SN's songs anywhere near as well as LB. At least, that's the way it seems to me.

Agree or disagree?

I agree wholeheartedly. Rhiannon, Dreams, and Gypsy would all undoubtedly have been lesser songs without Lindsey's creative, quality, memorable production.

-Matt

[DigYourGrave]

Originally Posted by Ench

Nobody arranges and produces SN's songs anywhere near as well as LB. At least, that's the way it seems to me.

Agree or disagree?

I pretty much had a big reply to this all written out, and it resembled everthing thats already been said, so I will say this;

Lets just wait and see in a few months, shall we... I have a feeling Stevie's songs will have no problem being great without the help of Lindsey, no problem at all.

[wolfontherun]

Agree 100%. My wish has always been that he produce an entire album for her.