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Originally Posted by nailatixela
PS: I'm with mark on the abortion/gay marriage issue. (except for the fact that I'm not gay) In my mind abortion is muder, and even if you personally do not believe in abortion I still think you should stand up for what you believe in. You personally may have not believed in slavery, but were not going to say anything if others wanted to have slaves. That's one comparison - and both sides of any issue should take a stand.
With gay marriage - that's a right that I don't think should be denied because there is nothing (in my mind) illegal about it. Except for the fact that it is in most states.  But the process of a gay marriage doesn't create any crimes. Every human life should be given a chance...I know I would not have wanted to be aborted even if I were to grow up in the hardest of situations. Every life deserves a chance to live. (which I guess is part of why I support gay marriage - the right to live a better life with someone. an aborted child never gets a chance to live with anyone)
That's just how I think about it in my mind - I guess I'm in an odd stance on these 2 issues though. I think I'll have to create a new party.  |
No, on reflection, I think a lot of people will recognise the points you make.
Aspects of the language used in this thread certainly offend me but on the principle of gay rights and marriage it is important that we see real equality in the US. As a European it is difficult to understand the way in which the more legal aspects and law get wrapped around gay issues in the US when elsewhere it is accepted as a basic human right that everyone gets equal treatment, equality and opportunity.
Unlike Strand, I don't think abortion is a variation on the same issue. I think it is important that women have a choice but the constant attempts to say that either pro or anti view is either morally, intellectually or in any other way superior, is unhelpful imo.