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Originally Posted by StevieRox2

Paula - plenty of people here, on SevenWonders, and certainly on Mick's board know who Ash is. And, she IS almost a member of the band, an honorary member. She doesn't come here much at all because of stuff just like this. This board gets so damn negative at times. You say that people here are not negative about Stevie and the recent shows??????????? WTF? People here have been so incredibly cruel, who supposedly LOVE Stevie. If that's love, I'd hate to see them with their enemies.

And of course Paula, if Stevie were to talk to you during a concert, you would tell her it isn't ok for her to talk to you right then because you don't think it's ok? I think not.

Does this woman do anything anymore that's appreciated? Nice to see that a few here are somewhat less critical of her twirls from last night - amazing! Write this one down.

Good God, if you don't like what she's doing anymore, DON'T GO!

Rox - you're getting really defensive & this discussion is getting more & more ridiculous. Go ahead & disagree with me, but please DO NOT put words in my mouth.

1) Obviously, as evidenced by the posts following yours, most people on The Ledge do not know who she is. What's the big deal if they don't? I doubt that would upset Ashley, so why are you getting so upset about it? And "almost a member of the band?" Please. That's a bit much. She's a fan who Stevie has connected with on a personal level. Good for her. Doesn't mean all of Stevie's fans should know who she is & should treat her differently than any other fan.

If Stevie started talking to me during a song, would I ignore her? Probably not. But I wouldn't bitch about it when others called this unprofessional behavior. I would never imply this was acceptable because it was ME she was talking to. "It's OK guys, she was talking to me!"

2) When did I say people here weren't being negative? I stated that IMO the posters in this thread who had negative reviews/opinions about the opening night performance were giving reasons why to back up their opinions, whereas most of the posters who disagreed with them weren't. The "positive" people seemed to be mostly making excuses or posting things like "let's see you perform at 60" or hurling insults at other band members or posters here. It sure doesn't help their case. And I don't recall many of the "negative" people attacking the "positive" people, but I can't say the same in reverse.

3) Many fans here who posted negative thoughts about the opening night performance have posted positive thoughts on shows since. Most were critiquing that ONE performance, and many have changed their minds about not going to see Mac based on what they've seen since.

It's OK to admit that Stevie isn't perfect & has off-nights & gives less-than-stellar performances on occasion. What's wrong with talking about it? Are we supposed to pretend that we liked it even though we were disappointed?

Oh wait, it's OK for us not to like it but we should shut up about it. Y/N? That's not what THIS board is about. We discuss all things Mac - good AND bad. Perhaps if YOU don't like what we're talking about here, don't come.

Originally Posted by David

That's very good advice, & that's precisely what I do.

By the exact same token, if ledgies are so negative & cruel, why subject yourself to them?

Exactly.

Originally Posted by jannieC

I honestly have no idea who Ashley is. Who is Ashley and why should we know her?

It really bugs me when fans get all uptight and say folks are Stevie bashing when people are simply expressing disappointment. It's OKAY to be disappointed in someone's performances and still be a fan.

Exactly. You can be upset or disappointed & still be a fan. A bad review of 1 performance does not mean you suddenly hate your favorite artist, it does not = "bashing." it does not mean you're no longer a fan.

Originally Posted by macpai

Of course that's OK. That's sort of a usual method.
I had one of the best times ever in Pittsburgh. I can still see things at not 100 percent at the same time.
The people who find it less than perfect are gonna stay the same and the people who think it is perfect are gonna stay the same, so people shouldn't try to hurt themselves or others to get their point across.

That is true. My gripe is that I am not freaking out & yelling at people who thought opening night was good just because they don't agree. I am not replying "are you crazy?" or "how could you possibly think that?!" or "you're a moron!" I'm explaining my position, not telling them why they're wrong. However, it seems that several of the people who disagree with the "negative" posters ARE doing just that.

Originally Posted by DigYourGrave

Woah! Bad bad bad Karma coming from this thread..

.. And just when Stevie was finally starting to glow onstage and Lindsey had never sounded better.

Looks like the purists have been Unleashed aswell eh?

Well, yeah, NOW she is. Please note that this thread was started immediately after opening night. Many people have thad their minds changed since.

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Mick and Christine.

Thanks Steve.

Originally Posted by michelej1

Ok, here's Rolling Stone saying she was there, the snippet that David referenced. I guess we'll come across Christine's comments later some day.

http://fleetwoodmac.net/penguin/archive/rstone9.htm

ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE - MARCH 17, 1983 - RANDOM NOTES

Stevie Nicks ended her lively bachelorettehood on January 29th, when she married former Warner Bros. promotion man Kim Anderson on the beach outside her Pacific Palisades home. Anderson is a member of the Hiding Place Church, a community of born-again Christians, and the marriage fueled speculation that Nicks herself might be a devotee of Jesus. "I think marrying Kim puts her into our group, but she'll have to come in her own time," said minister Philip Wagner, who performed the wedding. Wagner said that he had initial "trepidations" about marrying the pair ("I had to know where Stevie was at with the Lord.") The church, which emphasizes the supernatural and the charismatic in its worship, was founded last year by Henry Cutura, a former bass player for Debby Boone, and Todd Fisher, the son of Debbie Reynolds and Eddie Fisher.

The groom was previously married to Nicks' best friend, Robin Anderson, who contracted terminal leukemia last year. Only a week before her death, Robin gave birth to a healthy child. Nicks is the child's godmother.

Wagner said the couple's wishes were to keep the sundown ceremony "simple and stay away from the thee's and thou's. I did a little five-minute thing about their relationship to the Lord, and little miracles happening. Then we did some quick vows, they exchanged rings, and we had a little communion."

Attendees included Nicks' fellow Fleetwood Macksters Christine McVie and Mick Fleetwood. Nicks' longtime paramour, Lindsey Buckingham, was not in attendance.

Thanks to Kayde for transcribing this and posting it to the Ledge and to Anusha for forwarding it to us.

I didn't realize Kim worked for WB. Maybe I forgot.

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

I wonder if Stevie really expected Lindsey to be in attendance?
Btw, I didn't attend either.

Me neither. And I'm sure she did, much like she expected him to graciously accept an autographed copy of Bella Donna.

Originally Posted by silversprings62

Guys, I am VERY happy to report that all the rumours about Stevie are false!! She was magical tonight! She was smiling and engaged the entire show. She sounded perfect. She looked incredible. My thoughts are that the first few shows are spent working out the kinks and and as shows go by, everyone sounds better. Maybe she was nervous the first few shows and is now finding her groove. Whatever the case may be, I don't see any signs of her slowing down. Lindsey, Mick and John were awesome as well. I was standing right in front of Lindsey all night and what a treat that was! The man is incredible!! So, everyone who hasn't seen the show yet, you are in for the time of your life!! Have fun!

Rumours? Reviews of a performance are not rumours. But I'm glad she seems to be getting into the groove of things & that you enjoyed your show.