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Originally Posted by vermicious knid
What I really want is for irrelevant stories about things like crying and lapel pins and haircuts to be ignored in favor of real issues.
As for Iraq, I don't think Obama can claim to be more anti-war than Hillary. He has funded the war at every opportunity. It was easy for him to be against the war when he had no vote to give, but upon becoming a senator he turned timid. Why would he fund what he called a "dumb war"?
Every Democrat gave John Kerry a pass on this issue in 2004. But now it seems like Hillary must pay for the sins of everyone who was duped by George Bush.
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Well, would you rather he voted against funding? He shouldn't approve giving more money to the troops? We're there now, nothing we can do (under Bush) to get the hell out, so they'd better at least give the soldiers what they need to do their job. I'm not stupid, I know that money isn't going right to the troops or paying for equipment, but that's part of it.
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Originally Posted by David
He sounds & speaks like a simpleton.
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I'd like to add "looks like a simpleton." Did you guys see him point and WINK at someone at his last state of the union?
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She ain't gonna unite me with her faction, that's for sure. She has always struck me -- in looks, speech & politics -- as the quintessential bureaucrat.
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More than all the others?
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That's an excellent way to put it. Sadly but not surprisingly, it describes all the candidates in the two big parties -- every election since time immemorial.
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I know. We can't really point a finger at any single candidate, it's damn near impossible not to have SOME sort of shady connection whether they know it or not.
I appreciate people being passionate about who they want to run, but I hope that if Obama wins the nomination, Hillary supporters won't say "well, forget this, I'm voting for McCain" or even not vote at all - then we're really f*cked.
Same goes for Obama supporters if Hillary gets it.
Notice neither of them said "no" at the last debate when asked if they would consider running together.
