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Originally Posted by PenguinHead
I was always under the impression that the audience noise on some parts of that documentary were "sweetened," meaning dubbed and/or manipulated, as a production aspect for the video documentary. It stands out to me as being just a bit overwrought and heavy-handed. It borders on cheesy. I know of no other concert documentaries where it seemed so obvious. If this was actually the case, the producer probably did it to enhance the energy.
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I always thought that the crowd noise on that vid was strange. It seems that the crowd just erupts for absolutely no reason in certain spots. My conclusion back when it came out was that they were using crowd noise to mask certain band mistakes, or Clams.
Then i read an interview with Ken Calliet not long ago that someone posted on here and that got me to thinking about it again. In that interview he talks about boosting drums and guitars at certain points and he could feel the crowd respond (total paraphrasing what i remember here). So i was thinking that maybe those crowd swells weren't masking anything but were the result of some sound board tweaking like Ken described.
Then I watched again and I am back to my original guess. They are hiding clams. There is just no other reason to push the band sound so far behind the crowd noise EVER. The fact that it happens only in random spots only makes me more sure.
So I agree with you Bob,
there was some heavy handed crowd noise manipulation going on there.
and David, that was a good description of the different types of bootleg recordings.
What you described Liam, about putting mics on the audience as well, is more for when you are actually recording the performance for future use or release. That way you have crowd noise reaction recorded to a couple channels that you can use during mixdown, mostly at beginings and ends of songs. It is not unusual when they "enhance" (make louder) the crowd at the end of the songs, but it is so rare to be mixed into the middle of a song like is done here.