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Originally Posted by Rickypt
I am not interested in proving whether or not one is born gay. By doing that, I find an inherent belief that being gay is bad or not normal, but we can "blame" it on the fact we're born that way. Besides, most gay people know we were born that way so why can't people just believe us instead of wasting time on experiments.
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I'm not understanding the logic. How does studying something scientifically imply that it is bad? Most things we are are genetic, when we study those things, it doesn't necessarily mean or imply they are bad, just because we are studying them. And of course gay people know they were born gay, but maybe non gay people want to understand further. After all, they don't know what it is like being you. And, JMO, if someone is born something, that seems more "normal" to me. Like being left handed is normal, or blond. Cause you were born that way.
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Originally Posted by Rickypt
Homophobic people are going to be homophobic regardless of the science. Many of these folks are the same people who don't believe in evolution. They will find a religious reason to discriminate against and hate gays regardless.
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Then how has homophobia in our society dropped so dramatically in recent years? By accident? Also, even if a homophobic doesn't change their mind, maybe their kids will believe differently because of evidence, scientific or otherwise. I think it is a fallacy to believe people can't change their minds. Not everyone, but some people surely can, and over a generation populations especially change their minds.
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Originally Posted by Rickypt
It really shouldn't matter if we are born gay or choose it.
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It shouldn't matter if we are born left handed, or will get cancer, or experience hair loss, or choose to eat meat, or anything. Doesn't mean we shouldn't study those things. If it doesn't matter to you if gay people were born or chose it, then what is the harm in gaining scientific knowlege about it?
And does it really matter to you what type of reason leads people to the conclusion to accept gay people? I would think acceptance is desireable no matter what.
Not being rude, just not really understanding your logic.
