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Originally posted by Sorcerer386
I think the reason why BTM was considered a commercial failure is because of the reputation Fleetwood Mac had already had. Each album went at least double platinum just in the U.S. alone, so BTM only going gold would be a failure (same reasoning of Tusk after Rumours being considered a commercial failure). When you sell a lot and then an album comes out that doesn't sell as much, it's considered a failure. But it all comes down to expectations, no sales figures. TISL was not ever expected I don't think to crack the top 20, much less debut there and stay there for three or four weeks.
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I'm sure you're right as to why BTM was considered a "failure" by the MUSIC BIZ people but my BTM example was more to ask as to why do those particular FM FANS I was referring to consider BTM a "failure" (for those that are going by the "success=chart placing+gold/platinum status" thing) as if they are going by this theory, then BTM should be consider a "hit" BY THOSE FANS but it isn't (or doesn't seem to be) for some reason.
Also, I can see why TISL made the top 20 for a couple of weeks in the sense that since Stevie is obviously considered the most popular member of FM, then naturally she is going to have the biggest "initial sales influx" (I had talked about last time) out of all the FM memebrs as say, if one of the other FM members was to release a solo album it would not sell as many and stay on for a few weeks (like you were saying, who knows why it apparently didn't happen with SA though!) coupled with the facts of TISL containing "new" material as oppossed to say, the FM VBO album which doesn't have any truly new material (as remixes do not class as new material in many fans books and therefore they will not be buying this time around etc.) so hence the more sales with such an album as TISL (and no doubt the same "chart/sales activity will happen with the new FM album next year for the same reasons but most likely will NOT "do more" than that), as well as the fact that it was well publicized regarding the "big name" guest appearances on the album (Crow, Gray, Mclachlan so therefore their diehards would run out to pick up a copy as well due to thier respective appearances on the album as well) and LB fans were going to pick it up as well due to his appearance on the album as well. This same "big name guest appeareance marketing move" was used on "Timespace" with the appearances of Poison's Brett Michaels (as they were apparently bigger back in thr early 90's then they are (or seem to be) now) and Jon Bon Jovi) though it's hard to tell if "Timespace" fared as well as TISL did in this fashion. Nevertheless, this would explain the 3rd & 4th weeks on the chart. I'm not saying this is "fact" or anything but it's simply JMHO as to the "reasons" behind the sales of TISL (going by what you had said which I'm sure you are correct on as to TISL being in the top 20 for 4 weeks). I guess I just don't want to see "those kinds of fans" be disappointed if the new album doesn't "do well" or whatever, it's just these kinds of things I would hope some of them would consider if they do see this.
As I say, I'm glad you are happy for their success etc. but I personally have no allusions that the sales of yesteryear will return for FM because it will not happen unless the "music biz people" decide down the road sometime that FM is considered "hip & happening" again (in which case they would get behind them) which I doubt very much will be the case. Here's hoping it will be though someday!
John