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Old 11-08-2006, 05:26 AM
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I voted for a few of the bonds for infrastructure. Against my better judgement and only because the roads are a disaster and the water problems are severe. I don't believe in running the state on credit cards and loans. But that's how most people live their lives, and bond measures frequently pass. I don't always vote against education things, but I have started to. Until the state gets a handle on illegal immigration, I will continue to vote against education measures. Especially with the state legislature wanting to give kids of illegal immigrants in state tuition. Drives me bat****. Pissed that school classes are to big ? Seal the f*ckin border already.

I voted against 87 too. Good idea, bad plan. Gas prices would just go up, and the plan had zero oversight. Another huge beauracracy was going to be set up with no clear cut goals. It was just too vague for me get behind.



He is charmless and had nothing concrete to say about what he wanted to do. I thought he was reactionary. He just bitched about Arnold and offered nothing else. If he's the best the Dems can come up with, they can't get my vote. I kind of like Arnold. He was the best of a bad lot. As far as Repubs go, I find him tolerable. I like that he took a stand on the global warming thing, and the fact that he actually works with Dems and doesn't shun them.



He's a slimeball. But Fabio Nunez is worse.



2.60 a pack! Ridiculous. And a fraction of the money was to be spent on smoking stuff. I sure hope the imminent domain thing goes right. That **** is scary.
Wow. I almost totally disagree with you. But appreciate your explanations. I can't really get into how much I disagree, cause I don't want to argue with my Sparkelah. I will only say, I don't care that 87 didn't require results (but was explicit on what the percentage of money going to what would be) - at this point something is way, way, way, way, way, way, way, better than nothing. I balk when people bitch about "beaurocracy" - and make no mistake, repubs waste money like no other, they just don't talk about it - Defense spending is five billion times that of welfare - and then I think that those people don't truly understand what really wastes money, or who really wastes money, or what money is beneficial and may be required to make meaningful changes.

My god, the amount of money wasted by things people don't know about, and so never blame the people involved, is monumental, and has nothing to do with what you (and others) perceive as traditional scapegoat money wasters. Nothing at all. It's all talk, all surface, and everyone is fooled, they've been hearing it for so long.
Now is the time when Diss should pipe in and post all the specifics about how repubs and their ideas are bloatedly riddled with pork bellies and plans to make the rich richer. Bonds and Propositions included. How very much regular people are taxed under repubs while simultaneously tax cuts for the very wealthy are abundant, and also while people being told that cutting education, welfare, healthcare, is "fiscally responsible" - and how defense spending is really important - when anyone who actually looks at the numbers can see that they not only being swindled and robbed, while others better off are not, but that the nature of the swindle informs policy that is detrimental to themselves, and humanity as a whole, with far reaching pervasive consequences. It's funny. It really is.
It's like a common card shark on the street using sleight of hand and fast talk so that you can't guess the card. You still think that if you really watch carefully, you can win your bet this time - but you can't, and never do. Because it's rigged. Every time. And not in your favor.

I still love you, though. No big.
Ahem - So Cruz isn't gay? I guess his giant lie is simply all pervasive greed and powermongering. Hmm, the strength of his icky made it seem more unusual and subversive and socially unacceptable than that. What's another giant lie that could account for that?

And I voted for the cigarrette tax. *insert self righteous tone*
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