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Old 03-31-2006, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna
Amen! I agree....overpopulation needs to stop. I have a whole range of theories/ suggestions on how we, in America, can curb pop. growth...but I'm pretty sure they'd be considered "rights violations" or something. But let me just say it's f***ed up that it's harder to obtain a dog than it is to get knocked up and pop out babies...ugh. Don't get me started.

Anyway, you make excellent points in your above post.

And...snowman, yes, I think it is a racial issue on a certain level. That may not be the whole issue (illegals are a HUGE tax on the health/education system etc...) but either way, I think there's an underlying racial issue at play as well.
There's a zero population growth organization - I'm writing a scholarship paper for it, I should post that -
I must say I'm gratified to see an obvious immigrant (recent, and mexican I mean - both sides of my family only came here in 1920, from Italy, so I'm an immigrant, too, but not like you of course. ) understand "my" point.
And you are right, about it being an upward battle and a racial issue (although, of course, logically it is not a racial issue) - it seems like everyone feels they have a right to have a child. I know you are catholic, too, which makes it even more interesting that you see "my" point. (yes, I know you are a "special" catholic Hey, did you know I read a study a couple years ago that Italy has the least population growth? Less than one child per household. Just an interesting "Catholic" fact. )
I'd like to hear your theories.
My comprehensive theory is that education is the key, which is why I would never support some immigration law. I want everyone in the world to have the most knowledge possible at their disposal. Only then can people make wise choices. Which is of course why repubs always cut education. And immigrant benefits.
It shouldn't be a racial issue, though - but America has always made it one - from the Irish to the Italians to the Natives to the Slaves - always racial (the disguise, the red herring - it was never racial, it is always economic, cloaked in racial) - but now I submit we are at a threshold point as far as population goes. Sucks for the races who are trying to come here now, but it still isn't racial (which is not to say people aren't prejudice, just to say in the economic global reality it isn't racial.)

Again, people, mark my words - Repubs argue this point racially - but for them truly they want immigration - their BIG BUSINESS PROFITS depend on cheap labor - so don't be fooled.
Which makes me think of Clinton and NAFTA...
Sorry for the big long thing....
I don't care if immigration is a "huge" tax burden (did you guys know that Welfare takes up only about one tenth of one percent of the national budget? Yeah, exactly)
I think education FOR EVERYONE should be the number one fiscal priority. Immigrant or not. And health care should be number two. Yes, I'm a socialization girl. But, again, repubs want to keep the people dumb and not healthy, so they will work for nothing, and make the billioinaire owners more billions.
PEOPLE, THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE CAPITALIST SYSTEM
You can talk about "freedom" all you want, the only thing the repubs/rich people are thinking about is cheap labor and profits for themselves. "Lies, and the Lying liers who etc...."
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