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Originally Posted by Rickypt
That was f*king hilarious!
This lifelong Dem is going to reregister as an independent if they don't stop Alito. I have some problems with the Greens, especially locally, so I'm not quite ready to join their party. Instead, I will cast each vote on a case-by-case basis. Barbara Boxer will always get my vote, but I may very well vote 3rd party if the 2008 Dem candidate is someone like Hillary who seems to have no firm principles. Or I might just vote for McCain out of respect for the fact that he actually has principles and sticks with them
Thing about the Dems is that they have been lame pretty much since I became politically aware. Their only big success in recent history is Clinton and that's only because he is such a master politician.
I remember dancing on Castro Street all night long after the '92 election. Dems were going to be in control and change was coming. Two months later, we got "Don't Ask Don't Tell" and a codification of the HIV immigration ban. A year later, national health care was dead for a zillion years, even though Dems controlled the presidency and both houses of Congress. Four years later, Clinton signs DOMA. Not to mention welfare reform and ending public benefits for immigrants.
Dems suck even when they are in control.
Obama is going to disappoint us because he wants to be president. These guys aren't basing their votes and action on how they really feel; they are all calculated on future political races.
This country is too diverse politically not to have a several party system. I'd be much happier being part of a small, but truly oppostional party, than having to go protest people from my own party to teach them what it means to be a Democrat.
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Having just read thru several of your's and Diss' posts........I have to say that in some ways (many ways) I agree with what you both are saying, there is much to be disappointed in with the Dem party. But, I have been voting since 1976, and I have seen a bit more from the Dems than you have and its harder for me to give up on them because I can remember a time when the Dem party really DID represent the little guy....I know times are changing and the Dem party has made a piss poor showing for itself in recent years. But you'll have to remember that my loyalty goes back many MANY years and its not quite as easy for me to abandon something I truly believe in as it is for you youngsters. So, on the one hand, I am incredibly unhappy with the Dems for not being firmer, especially now when I think the will of the people would be firmly behind them if they stood up NOW. ON the other hand, I feel reluctant to jump ship forever. I do have strong feelings about choice however and if the Dems allow Alito in AND he votes in the future to overturn Roe, thats IT for me. Im going to a different party. Im thinking Green, but maybe Independent too. Im not a Libertarian, I think those guys are closet Anarchists, but I am an environmentalist and that is another huge part of who I am so the Green Party does have its appeal. IF (and only if) Roe is overturned.