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Old 12-15-2005, 11:17 AM
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One might say the exact same thing about murderers.
Again, nice try. I've been saying that there are always exceptions to rules. In fact, just killing somebody does not necessarily make one guilty of committing murder. There is a legal precedence for homicide that takes those factors into account. See, I think this is where you and I differ. You see things in black and white, while I see things in shades of grey. Nothing is absolute.
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The crime against some victims could be seen as no less than murder. Take someone inclined to rape and torture for extended periods, they may leave a victim disabled, physically and/or mentally, traumatised for life, and we are not entitled to take their life but we are entitled to take the life of someone who let a bullet fly and with that killed a person instantly.
**** happens.
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How is one more dangerous and inhumane than the other?
In theory, they're not. In reality, one left a corpse, and the other didn't.
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The trauma experienced by the victim is not necessarily less, in some cases it may be drawn out far beyond what their instant death would have been.
True, but their attacker is still not guilty of committing murder or even homicide.
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In short, the crime and the impact on the victim can be equivalent to that in a case of murder when the crime is indeed not murder. The condition of death is not necessary yet it has been decided one is worthy of death, the other is ok in prison. I simply don't get your reasoning.
Because in one instance, death was the result of an action, and in the other death did not result. One must be violent to commit murder, but one does not have to commit murder during a violent crime. Just as the death penalty is the ultimate punishiment, murder is the ultimate crime. Any punishiment that is less than capital punishiment isn't capital punishment. Any crime less than murder isn't murder, including homicide.

Actually, it's a pretty simple concept.
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