[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by sparky

That is the root of the problem right there. You cannot definitively know when it begins. It is a gray area, scientifically, and an impossible area spiritually. Even if there is scientific proof of some sort, people will hoot about holler about it anyway. I mean, you could carbon date the shroud of friggin Turin and prove with all available science that it is only 700 years old and people would say the scientific results are just a test of faith Which is why these arguments will rage on and on and on. Spirituality and logic are almost diametrically opposed.

Good points.

Uh, Brandon?