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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Again, play fair and post the ones for it  They are out there - but you post only one side
I think you think I relish the idea of harming even a little but the Artic area. I do not. I just am calling a spade a spade by noting ther we (myself included) talk a great game, but we all do not really do anything about it  If just 5% of America refused to use oil in any fashion or for that matter turned exclusively to alt. fuel sources that are out there, the oil industry would have no choice but to support these other fuel sources. Yet, America, along with the rest of the world do not do this 
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I tried to find some, but I haven't yet. Although they are alluded to in the article I put there. And debunked. And we are not more vocal because many people think the way you do. As you will notice, when more people started to care, they started to make hybrid cars. And even that was veeery slow compared to how many people
did care from way back. We just have to keep pushing,
hard, for the change to come, because there are clearly many monied interests against that change. That is part of the reason why your attitude infuriates me (In a non offensive way). You can probably get a hybrid car, did you sign up for one? It is at least one way to put your money where your mouth is. Well, apparently not
your mouth, but you see what I mean.