[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Yeah. The mentally ill and depressed are ****ing hilarious.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Lux

I don't see anything funny nor ironic about those kids killing themselves. I don't care what their crime is, execution is never funny. I still struggle to see how anyone who supports the death penalty can maintain disgust at crimes of murder. To support the death penalty is to support murder and maybe this is too black and white but in my mind that disqualifies you of the right to be disgusted at the initial act. There is no way those boys should have been executed. Their crime was such a terrible act and the last response to it should be murder. Governments should not stoop as low as the murderers they're condemning.

Anyway, we've discussed this before but the main point here is that those boys' suicides is so far from funny that it really doesn't do your case any good to present it as such.

Yes, it's hard for me to understand, too.

Okay, I have something else that's related to this very thing on my mind for the moment. Y'all will have to take it from there because I have to run to class, but it seems that a lot of people on here have zero respect for people who are pro-death penalty. Lux just said that she feels someone doesn't have the right to be disgusted at the initial act of murder if he or she supports the death penalty. Now, my question is, what if Nancy came on here and refuted that, saying that she strongly disagrees and is for the death penalty but against murder, how would y'all react? Would y'all be respectful toward her as y'all always seem to be, or would you be honest and repeat what you've already said? It seems to me that you've condemned her (and others who are for capital punishment) for believing that way. The whole thing seems hypocritcal to me because y'all act like you do respect her and consider her a conservative worth talking to, yet many of you ridicule and denounce conservatives as a whole when you don't have to deal with her in a thread. Maybe it's easy for me to step back from this and look at it because this issue might not be as personal as the gay rights issue for me or very many others. It's very easy for me to say that I don't tolerate people being against me getting married or generally have equality because those people refuse to tolerate me first. If they're not going to put up with me in the least, why should I put up with them? As one of my English teachers once said, turning the other cheek just to get that one slapped as well is never really beneficial. But I'm trying to look at capital punishment and the basic idea of being respectful of other's opinions as long as it's not a matter of them trying to run your own life for you in a philosophical way. And this is not an attack on any of you in the least. I'm just throwing this out and I want to see what y'all have to say whenever I get back to a computer today. It's just something I wanted to discuss.