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Originally Posted by sparky
This is hysterical. I am not talking about tone. I am talking about the use of language. "I'm lonely, I'm lonely, I'm lonely" is warm ? Is poetic ? I am thrilled that you respond to it. But to call a line like that poetry is like calling Stevie tall.
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Forgive me, but I feel that the simple expression "I'm lonely," is warmer than comparing oneself to Icarus... a somewhat obscure mythological character that the average person is NOT going to be able to relate to.
I'm not saying that Joni's line wasn't brilliant and beautiful... but I would like to know how many people out there, outside those of us familiar with Greek mythology, could actually
relate to it.
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Originally Posted by sparky
I can't see the difference here. Is it artistically inauthentic to rework a phrase to make it sound better ? Obsessing ? Countless times ? It is preosterous to suggest rewriting a lyric or a line in a book is tantamount to gutting it of all meaning. Art doesn't fall out of people like apples off a tree. That's where you and I really differ. That belief right there.
That is actually not a bad line, of course she is using the word dream for the 400th time, but at least it's coupled with a new word.
I am not actually suggesting that Stevie use a rhyming dictionary for all her songs, but for God's sake how about expanding the vocabulary ? I suppose that would be somehow violating her muse and selling out. Education is the bastardization of all creative authenticy ? Following this logic she would be a more pure artist if she were banging on a rock. It is puzzling to me that you interpret rewriting and refining art as second guessing and not following one's artisitic impulses. Especially when we have all seen the evolution of Stevie's demos - the ones that did radically change lyric wise and music wise over the years. Are the evolved products phony and less meaningful ? I don't think so. Ultimately, we don't know how much each song was changed from inception to release. However, I would bet anything most of the lyrics lately aren't getting a whole lot of second looks. I think she used to concentrate more on them.
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I'm done debating this. Consider it me throwing in the towel or having run out of arguments, if you must.
I find enjoyment in these lyrics even if you think they are ever so lame and embarrassing.
I'd ask your forgiveness for having defended the right of an artist to express themselves in the manner with which
they see fit, but I honestly don't apologize for feeling that way.
Hopefully if and when you create something that you're proud of... a poem, a song, a painting... you won't have dozens of people pointing out to you the 1,173 ways they (or someone else) could have done it better.
