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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
But - Clinton used essentially the same reasoning at the UN, which Dissention asserts was a lie when W did it - thus my point..
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He did not use phony images and documents.
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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
But, I know I know the R's can never do anything right and when the D's kill in the name of WMD - it is somehow okay. I'll never get it.
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I never said that.
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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Finally, I liked Clinton and wish he was still in the WH to this day and I voted for Kerry even though I think he was no ideal of mine; he was, however, far closer to an ideal than W. But, I do not sugar coat them and I certainly never tow any party line out of blind allegiance (not that you were doing that  ). I call it like I see it and the facts state it, an attribute few possess in this world's political arena - sad - but very true.
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Not true, the way you see things are colored by your own perceptions and are not necessarily just the facts. This is the case for everyone. To say that you are the only one speaking the truth is a little bit megalomaniacal, no? (Okay, I'm just being silly now, too much caffeine).

I agree with you on the Clinton point, I also wish he were still our president.
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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
BTW - ewveryone asserts we went to control Iraqi oil. We do not do so now and have not ever done so. Yes, Halliburton made money, but surely there were easier way to siphon money to them if that has been the intent all the time. So, I just do not buy that argument or at least totally.
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Because they miscalculated. I don't think it was THE reason for war but it was certainly a factor IMO.