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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
There you go again, you get called on a point and proven wrong (repeatedly at that) - so you call people hateful in some vague way. When you are wrong you are wrong - I am often wrong and readily admit it and do not think people are hateful for telling me so. Now when I get stuck on a point and argue against the facts and people get testy - well, that is my fault 
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And we still don't know where exactly you (JamieSPC) stand because you have not been forthcoming in that regard. You seem satisfied with lighting the match and throwing it igniting this thread, and then watching it burn all the while pointing at it and questioning why it is so WHEN YOU WERE THE SPARK. I think you know where the liberals stand, where do you stand? I'm not the only one who has mentioned this but still you won't step up. Nancy has the courage to state her beliefs here, knowing they won't be popular. I admire that and welcome the opportunity for open discussion. Please try to stop finger pointing and join the discourse.