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Old 11-08-2004, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeGeMe
Yet, the warfare, and it is indeed warfare, that Republicans have engaged in against Democrats would have you believe that casting a vote for the Democrats is the same as voting for Satan. This is just beyond ridiculous.
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Let me ask you this--do you really think that the Anti-Christ would appear and proclaim himself the Anti-Christ? Of course not, he (or she) will put the most attractive, genial face on their evil as they possibly can. The Bible's pretty clear on this--it says that "many shall arise in my name." Just something to think about there for you today.
Yes, it is. Kerry is not Satan. But the implication that Bush is the Anti-Christ is just as ludicrous. Or did I misread you and you were not intending to seriously imply that?


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Does it not bother any of you who voted for this man that the very places that were attacked on 9/11 voted AGAINST this president?
No, because I don't base my political decisions on how others vote, I make my own decisions.

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Does it bother you that he was warned that we were going to be attacked and did NOTHING about it? That he ignored the warnings?
Hindsight is 20/20. It's so easy to say he should've done this, should've done that. Those attacks did not happen because of George W. Bush, any more than they happened because of Clinton or anyone else who did not take more action against Osama Bin Laden (Here is an example of "Missed Opportunity" at this link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/ ).

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Does it not bother you that there is no evidence that Saddam Hussein had a direct involvement in 9/11 or with Osama Bin Laden?
Bush was careful to make the distinction and NOT assert that Saddam was partially behind 9/11, although he certainly asserts there is a relationship between the two, he did NOT include that. http://newsmine.org/archive/9-11/inq...connection.txt

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or that there have been NO Weapons of Mass Destruction found in Iraq?
Everyone knows he had them at one time. He said he destroyed them, but did not allow the UN to observe this destruction, which is a violation of the UN's requirements. Here's a link for you guys: http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/ir...ade/sect2.html . Here's another link that gives the history of Iraq's continued defiance of the UN. http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/iraq/timeline.htm . And yet it was unreasonable to doubt him? We sure gave him enough time to get rid of them if he did have them, BTW.

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That over 100,000 innocent civilians have been murdered in Iraq by our troops? And for what? Why are we there? This has not kept us safer and has instead, enabled Osama Bin Laden and the other terrorist groups to recruit hundreds if not thousands of fighters for their cause, against us.
Of course it's terrible that civilians have killed. But more died under Hussein. Everyone acknowledges his atrocities. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...ets-usat_x.htm And those guys choose their own paths; we didn't make them do anything.

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Does it not bother you that the World thinks that we have lost our damned minds for electing this man for a second term? That we are now viewed as religious extremists who are pursuing an aggressive policy against other countries? That we have appointed ourselves the policemen of the world (*only applies to countries with rich oil reserves)?
I don't wait to find out what other countries believe before I form an opinion. It's a shame they feel that way, of course, but it doesn't change my mind.

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The truth is that you can't defend these positions and you know it or else you'd be making multiple posts like the liberals on this board do. But you can't because there's no there--there.
I hope my post has answered this somewhat.

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And you know, or you should know, in your heart of hearts that discriminating against the poor, and homosexuals, and other minorities is WRONG.
Yes, it is.

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Please explain to me how Republicans and Conservatives came to be a protected minority when you control the White House, both Houses of Congress, and the Supreme Court? That's not a minority-it's a majority and I don't believe that special protection extends to majority groups, either here or in the "real world".
We're a minority here, but certainly not overall, no. And there's a reason for that. Can you really write off the majority of Americans who not only voted for a Republican President but increased their senate majority? It would be more profitable to examine yourselves and figure out how you lost them, than further alienate them with elitist attitudes, if you ever want to win a presidential election.

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And on edit---if you have articles proving your positions or that support your view, by all means, post them. See, being liberal means having an open mind and I'm not afraid to read "the other side's" viewpoints. But they had better be grounded in firm fact or I'm going to pick them apart because that's something else liberals are good at--questioning the status quo and not drinking the kool-aid.
OK, I did. It took my slow self over an hour. We'll see what happens.
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