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Originally Posted by David
I listened to what I could. "Sara" sounds staid & even listless to me, like the carefully measured performances of it (in my opinion, a misreading) from 1988. Stevie approaches every song vocally these days with the same adagio moderato. If you electronically analyzed her sound wave, I'm sure you'd find a perfectly horizontal line. I can't help thinking that there's some sort of pernicious cause-&-effect relationship between her projection & the addition of the session players to the live mix in '87 (which is just about when she busted up).
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Well, i'm a sucker for "sara"....but i never cared for her solo band's version...they changed things around too much and it wasn't as tight as FM...then again, i didn't really care for any of the 1982 versions either...she was all over the place vocally and it got annoying. i've never heard the 1988 version.
yeah, you're right about her vocal approach these days....i really don't know what the reason is...and, yes, we have analyzed this to death...i wish Stevie would comment on it herself....i think there are so many reasons. i don't think it's just because of the backup players. she had that on her solo tours and that didn't stop her....at least until 1989. As a matter of fact, one might think that they can just go as crazy as they want because there's extra people up there to cover their ass. So, in 1987, imo, non-partying was a REALLY big factor. additionally, things got less crazy, FM wasn't the same, she hit 40, and her attitude changed...and i'm sure there's **** that happened to her that we don't even know about that would make any of us sober up. I've known of people that just turned into blobs when they quit drinking...it's like they can't function at social events and seem devoid of any genuine emotions. it's sad.
Lindsey needs to watch it too. His voice isn't exactly what it was...Hey, don't flame me people, this is just par for the course.. I was watching "blondie-a&e's live by request" and she's had to drop the key in a lot of her songs too.
Obviously, some songs just aren't going to sound as good or transfer over as well in a lower key.
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Originally Posted by David
"Not Wrong" sounds plodding to me, too -- I think because of Mick's drumming. It's all wrong. He plays the sixteenths on the hi-hat as if the band were doing "Dreams," instead of whacking on those toms in that quasi African way he used to. When you take the jungle beat out of "Not Wrong," what are you left with? "Dreams"?
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I'll have to listen again to it. I only heard it once when i downloaded it. The thing that attracted me to Mick's drumming was that tribal feel he used to incorporate....he hasn't played that way in a while. That's what i really love about the older FM records...his best moments shined then. And i really really REALLY hate the vest thing during "World Turning"...it would be my beer run song except they close the bar at 9pm....it was cute in 1987 cause everthing was synth oriented then anyway, but for me, real instruments win hands down....i would be thrilled to see him just pound away at that old talking drum instead of abbreviating that part to a minute or two...and then slapping himself like a spaz....anyone can hit pads concealed in their vest...those old "World Turning" drum solos of years past were so interesting to listen to....very eerie in a way.
But i just couldn't get past the lower key they sang "IKINW" in. Unfortunately, i really don't like any of the songs that are dropped in a lower key..."the chain" has never been the same since they dropped it down. I think this is because of Lindsey. That part "i can STILL HEAR YOU SAYIN" is a bit hard to reach.
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Originally Posted by David
It's too bad they dropped "DLMDA" because that is such a showcase for Lindsey's wicked guitar work. But dropping it (like Stevie refusing to put "Long Distance Winner" in her 1998 set list) seems yet another nail in the coffin of the CD release of "Buckingham Nicks."
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Yeah, i know...i honestly didn't think it sounded bad...even in the lower key. I heard the extra guitarists filling in the guitar harmonies and it was good. They need to move it more toward the middle of the set and introduce it or something.
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Originally Posted by shackin'up
So wait for verdict until you heard better recordings.
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true...
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Originally Posted by shackin'up
And, please give SOME respect for the people who heard it live and were thrilled.
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i haven't heard any personal bashing going on here...i mean noone is saying "how dare you like that live performance you idiot..." we're just offering opinions. you gotta be able to sift through all the positive and negatives and still be able to hold your own without being influenced by one or the other. don't let the "negative" opinions bring you down. "i'm not right, i'm not wrong...my god! what have i done!?"
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Originally Posted by EveryHour
I, for one, am happy to see her drug-free and will take her any way I can get her because she ~and we~ are lucky she's alive!) or (even more likely, IMO) desire to preserve her voice. We all know she used to blow her vocal chords singing the way she used to, and maybe she had to make a decision...continue to sing that way and risk losing her voice forever, or tone it down a little and be able to go on.  [/B]
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i completely agree...look at some of the other performers that are out there and look and sound horrible...i'm glad she's alive and even on stage. i've gotten over expecting this and that from them. i'm grateful the setlist changed and the most important thing for me is that she/they look happy. Stevie can sound as monotone as she wants but if she's laughing and interacting with the audience and truly enjoying herself then i feel like my money went to some good use.
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Originally Posted by Mike B
it was 1 less than Mick led us to believe
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guys, don't crucify the guy cause they're one song short. I know everyone loves to get on the mick bashwagon here but he's not to blame for everything. is everything written in stone in this world? we can't hang on to every spoken word....especially over one omitted song.