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Old 08-31-2018, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by elle View Post
you misquoted Kristen, which is actually not surprising considering it is kinda jumbled up in that record thread:



Kristen's original comment is this (i also bolded above):

[H]e didn’t ask for any such delay. Ironically, they are starting later now than what they had planned with Lindsey. Cruelest move I’ve ever seen. Lindsey did not deserve any of it.

Kristen is answering an IG comment from a fan claiming that he asked for 1 year delay.

so Kristen Buckingham directly refutes the 1 year delay claim.

you can also go to original thread which i believe has screencap of Kristen's comment, so you can directly see what she said, in response to what. if not, you can go to that IG post and scroll down to her comment.
OK, I see. The 'source thread' above appears to be a broken link. And, while I looked through Kristen's Instagram page previously, I missed that bit. I'd prefer a link to the original Instagram post if possible.

The rest of the band has been clear in claims that Lindsey wanted to delay the tour, e.g. here Stevie says directly that Lindsey wanted to delay the tour rehearsals until November 2019. http://www.vulture.com/2018/04/tevie...-volatile.html

So, we have a situation where they are saying different things. There are three situations I can see.

1. Stevie is lying.
2. Kristen is lying.
3. Neither are actually lying, but are giving simple descriptions of a more complex truth.

E.g. it could have been the case that in discussions Lindsey initially asked for the tour to be delayed (until 2020 I would guess if rehearsals only started in November 2019.) But, that in discussion various options were put forward including the solo and FM tour happening at the same time. So, no delay. However, it could be that either (i) this offer came too late after a majority of the band had already decided that they didn't want to tour with Lindsey, or (ii) other points of negotiation weren't agreed which caused the bustup. I.e. even without a delay there were other points that caused and impasse and the current situation.

In the cases described in the first paragraph, Stevie could be telling the truth if an initial discussion included a request to delay the tour, and Kristen could be telling the truth if a later offer was made by Lindsey that meant the tour would go ahead.

The bottom line was that agreement wasn't reached.

In light of this, I think my initial question needs to be modified so that it doesn't rely on the single point of contention: was there a request for a delay.

However, the bottom line is that there were at least a majority who wanted to go ahead with the tour, and at least one (and I guess one) who wanted to do things differently. (Though, it's arguable how differently.) In that situation, it's more the responsibility of the individual to compromise than the majority, if they want to keep the band together.

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