[chiliD]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Perfectly stated!

Unfortunately, many don't understand the beauty of that. " I paid a lot of money, so I expect to hear these songs!"
When it comes to Fleetwood Mac, if you're a true fan, you wouldn't have such stringent expectations. And, as a causal fan, even if you don't hear all the songs you're familiar with, you should still be able to be entertained, and appreciate/enjoy the show because it's being performed by an exceptional band.

I've been to many shows where I might know little to nothing about the artist or the songs (accompanying friends who are fans), but I can still appreciate and enjoy the performance. If Fleetwood feels that 90% of their show has to be the familiar well-worn road material, at least they can be a little bit more adventurous with song sequence. Open with something other than The Chain. Push Dreams near the end of the set. The band gets so set in their ways. Yet it's so perplexing to see that some fans seem to want it that way. "They have to open with The Chain, followed by Dreams." I don't understand that. I rather be surprised and challenged, expecting the unsuspected.

Elvis Costello once did a tour where he had this big wheel with dozens of songs on it; he'd spin it and perform whatever song it landed on. Pretty cool, huh? Every show was unique.

Originally Posted by elle

thank you! the voice of reason. reading everybody else's posts i can't help but wonder whether these people see only FM live... or if not, who do they see? because for sure it ain't Stones, or Dylan, or Clapton, or Pearl Jam, or Bowie, or Bruce, or Prince, or Steely Dan, or NIN, or Jackson Browne... the list goes on and on.

when i saw Bowie years ago, he played only 2 of his hits. same with Dylan couple of years ago. Jackson Browne didn't do Stay. Lindsey solo never does Holiday Road.


see above. Stones are not solo artists, nor Steely Dan, nor NIN, nor Pearl Jam, and many others. yet they change setlists, from tour to tour and date to date, some of them a lot some of them a few songs or a sequence. Steely Dan had two completely different sets alternating between the dates last year. some of these bands are much older than FM, others are much younger but old enough to be considered classic rock.

Originally Posted by elle

of course fans following all bands bitch. NIN fans bitch that they always end their set with Hurt. always. every tour. but you know what? it's worth following NIN around. it's worth seeing 2 different tours. it's worth seeing them at festivals vs regular tour dates. setlists are highly varied and different. when they have new album out, in 2-3 dates in a row they cover every single new song. every. single. one. or follow Pearl Jam around and you will always get surprises. and all these bands do highly solid shows, make no mistake. they are not Grateful Dead. on top of everything NIN does a huge production. Pearl Jam has amazing audience interactions. they do on the spot covers. the list goes on.

re Stones - to have most of the setlist the same and switch 3 songs between dates is very different from basically playing the EXACT same setlist for the last 40 or so years!! wouldn't we all be ecstatic if FM would switch around 3 songs from date to date??????? i mean, we call ourselves lucky if they switch 3 songs from tour to tour!! if the leaked setlist is correct, between them Stevie and Lindsey switched exactly ONE song since the last tour, and dropped a few to accommodate Christine's. that's not 7 different songs from the last tour, that's 1! (and that 1 was played on the tour just before last.)

lmao at FM changing 7 songs since the last tour. aha. how many did they switch since the Dance? oh yeah, now they dropped the ones that were new at the time, that's about it.

FM fans have much less reasons to see them on every tour, however great performance they give, or to see them several dates in a row. i made a mistake and thought FM might be as interesting as LB solo to see a number of times on one tour, so i made a huge mistake and saw them way to many times last year - and i got burned out. we have every reason to bitch, much more than fans of other bands.

Ok, you've forced me into it...

And, then there's the Grateful Dead & Phish....they don't even follow the set list they make for the NIGHT, much less two shows in a row. I think it was the Grateful Dead who played 10 shows in a row WITHOUT REPEATING A SONG! Ok, Fleetwood Mac, TRY THAT!!!!

Game, set & MATCH to chiliD!!