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Originally Posted by nicole21290

Yes, I'm aware of that interpretation and, for sure, a lot of it may be about Anne. However, I find THESE (and a few others, to be honest, esp. the last verse) lyrics quite curious in terms of a set of VERY similar lyrics of Stevie's and they, to me, bely quite an interesting 'coincidence'.

We never took quite enough chances
We never had quite enough time
I did about a thousand dances
But nothing would change your mind

Say you will, say you will give me one more chance
At least give me time to change your mind
That always seems to heal the wounds, if I can
Get you to dance


Yes, mostly. I just find that he probably doesn't JUST use 'underground' as a business related concept. He does more so here but not everywhere. So yes, primarily the underground idea here is related to doing his artistic work thing under the radar, or underground, if you will. I just find the 'did I sell my heart for the dreams in my head?' quite an interesting idea in terms of BOTH the personal and the professional.

You're the queen of the underground
Never leaving a clue

I took a trip out of town / A hundred years underground
And had to swim across the sea / Oh, when you were my baby

Black angel can't be alone
Love runs deeper from the underground

Mmm, yes, I've read that before. I disagree, for the most part, sorry. I don't think I purposely look at everything through some misplaced romantic ideal but I DO think that it makes FAR more sense seeing this song in terms of the personal and not the professional. Although Lindsey has written plenty of songs about the world in general and the business in specific, I don't think this is one of them. He directly addresses a person in these lyrics and talks about dreams and faith and plans that two people have had that can be no longer.

I would say that yes, his artistic vision and work IS a constant and important thing to him (though not necessarily the most, actually, anymore). I also think it's fair to say from both interviews and songs that STEVIE is a constant and important thing for him too, in terms of an important relationship in his life as well as an inspiration for lyrics.

thank you for juxtaposing words of Rodeo and SYW. i read them and sang these songs in my head at the same time... and what immediately jumped out was that there is such a huge difference in the quality of these 2 songs (for me at least ), even though Rodeo is often dismissed as one of Lindsey's more commercial sounding songs.

i don't want to dump on him but i do think that for the longest time being commercially successful or at least being as commercially successful as Stevie ("it was all for you" ) was an obsession for him.

and while i agree that in my interpretations i provide just one dimension / version / explanation, i go that way mostly because there's no need to go into SnL explanation. tons of other people already go there at every opportunity - and they see ONLY that dimension. that's why i loved reading your other posts below (and CAD's), because i agree that most Lindsey's songs are very multi-dimensional, and about many different things. like many songwriters write in fact, including Stevie from what i know - her song that she says is about Mick, or Lindsey, or whoever or whatever, maybe actually spliced of components of several different poems, each about something different. especially if Lindsey had something to do with producing that particular song lol.

Originally Posted by nicole21290

May I just ask, Elle, why is it that one is wearing 'S+L blinders' if they think a large number of Lindsey's songs are about Stevie and vice versa? Certainly, thinking that doesn't mean that one can't acknowledge or interpret songs as being about his wife, other relationships, business and work issues, the world at large, politics, etc. I just happen to think that certain songs of his ARE about her (even after reading alternate interpretations and explanations sometimes) and many recurrent themes, words, images seem to point to that in this song - CAD - and others as well.

Naturally, a song can also be about more than one thing and I don't think it's a stretch to say that he can be talking about both the personal and professional within a song and that the personal element may be about Stevie, a woman he still obviously had and has complicated and deep feelings about and for. I don't think that's me wearing blinders, even if I quite happily admit to being a 'shipper'. Your mileage may vary, of course.

i agree with much of what you wrote, and especially parts i highlighted. while many of his songs may have a very simplistic lyrics and be about one thing (WMYTYTO?), many are also very multidimensional - as we both seem to agree.
i also think that LB sometimes just throws words in that he likes, or that sound good to him, or that are just swirling in his head for no particular reason (like because SN uses them so much and they sound good or mysterious? ). remember, some of Love Runs Deeper words that you quoted came from KB (and are some of his most pedestrian and bland lyrics imo - KB!).

Originally Posted by CADreaming

Absolutely. It's all tied together anyway. Of course there is more than one meaning. Both Stevie & Lindsey write like that. After all, Lindsey said they appreciate the double entendre of "EP" - "extended play"...

and not just that lol - gift of screws if nothing else comes to mind. he loves loves loves double entendre... and almost every time one of the meanings has to be very dirty / sexual . nobody thinks GOS is only about art and squeezing creative juices! (to the left to the right up and down and around... with some sex noises added into it. hmmm. yes. Emily Dickenson inspired art only.).

Originally Posted by nicole21290

Quite. We can't have them being boring and having simplistic, literal lyrics all the time. Double-meanings, symbolism and parallels all the way.

completely agree.

Originally Posted by nicole21290

Yes, I think that has been the case at times. Certainly, there are certain very political songs but I think often his explanation of them as being such means that less attention is paid to the more personal elements that also exist within said songs and, whilst his explanation isn't untrue by any means, it doesn't explain *all* the lyrics of the song or all the layers of the song. And it doesn't have to. Would be far less fun to read into and interpret, then. And yeah, he's apparently very interested in things like the politics within a band, for example. Which he doesn't mention much AT ALL, cough.

I walk empty halls wondering what is true
Behind the garden walls I search for you
Deep down in the ocean, deep down in the sea
Saw your face full of grace searching for me

Halls, truth, walls, searching, ocean, sea, grace - check, check, check. Yep, definitely some nice imagery and personal elements in that one...

yes - but the words he repeats and loves to use - do they really have to be about one thing or person? as you said above, many of these songs have great lyrics with many different meanings.

i'm actually surprised you didn't bring up SWS and EAP, but maybe that one's too obvious.

U2's MLK? wasn't the song originally supposed to be about someone nasty, like Hitler? but as the song developed Bono did a complete 180, and while he may have kept some of the lyrics, song ended up going into completely different direction. i think while this is very drastic example, many songs may start inspired by one thing, and have many twists and turns till they become a complete song.

especially with LB, remember he would tear down the sentence into words and give people around him to construct sentences around each word? maybe there are some words he just starts from or throws in when he's lazy?