[nicole21290]

Originally Posted by secret love

I loved reading this, Nicole, all of it - but the bolded parts especially. And that concluding sentence just sums up my feelings about Stevie and Lindsey as celebrities: they are in this funny space where (at least in AUS) they do not get talked about in the newspapers very much so there is not a lot of public interest that I can hear of feel in talking with Australians.

Thanks. I apparently have a lot of 'feelings' about this stuff. Ah, but they're not celebrities in the same way as many of those we see plastered across magazines these days. Both the media and the general public in the business of 'celebrity' are far more interested in shaming good-looking young actresses for their clothes, weight, partners, etc and digging up dirt on the newest and hottest and most controversial young artists who are 'open' to the public in a big way (through social media etc), for example, then rehashing the drama of great band who hit their commercial/artistic(?) peak decades ago. Doesn't mean there's no interest at all or that tours don't sell well - just means they're not celebrities in the same way as many are now. Certainly, I'm Australian too and none of my acquaintances are interested but I put a lot of that down to age...

And yes, why oh why if Lindsey has had so much "closure" does he continue to write songs with lyrics like "Hello, hello sad angel, have you come to fight the war?" One could take the extreme view that they both have a secret child/possibly marriage but that would be silly. They are two people for whom the "barriers of time" (Stevie Nicks) got in the way.

A true testament to how difficult work relationships can be. But also - a way of showing how it can be done. 40 years since Buckingham Nicks. Even longer since Linds and his friends' band Fritz.

Oh, if I were looking at lyrics that made me think that that actual closure is still not a possible thing for them to achieve (not that I think they truly want it), Sad Angel wouldn't even be NEAR the top. I'd look at a number of interesting songs on Seeds We Sow and then, particularly, BOTH of Lindsey's other songs from the EP, both of which he has copped to being about Stevie. They are far more interesting in terms of message for me though I do adore Sad Angel.

I had another dream of you last night / Sailing on a sea of blue
You were grieving for someone else / I was grieving for you

It may be you don't remember me / But I remember you

And do you still tremble when I fall? / Will you still answer when I call?
Would you still love to linger up against the wall?

Baby, I've just been holding out too long / Maybe I couldn't admit I was wrong
And maybe I've just been lying to myself / And no one else

Slow down, baby / Cross that line
If you want to save me / It takes time

Maybe I've wasted all this precious time / I'm trying to prove what is and isn't mine
Wondering to myself if you knew / It was all for you

Also, laughing at that 'silly' secret marriage/kid thing because yeah, well, the archives of both this forum and another in particular suggest that some like to travel down that road of speculation... Ah, yes, those 'barriers'. Not even that pesky destiny this time (though we WILL blame it and use it to justify what a mess certain times are/were!) but an actual barrier. 'A decision no one made and now you're going home', indeed. And then later, 'choices we must make' that lead to 'hearts will break'. It ain't easy, lol.

And yes. The sheer length and depth and complexity of the relationship will always fascinate me, I think. There's nothing like it. It's become increasingly clear that, no matter what now, they're it - they can't and won't let each other go, in whatever capacity and as complicated as it is. As Lindsey likes to point out, they've known each other since high school, bless.

We have to take that step back and remember, yeah, these are great songs. The band members are having a great time on stage. They appear to getting along really well. But then ...what happens backstage? What happens when they go home to their individual hotels?

It's an interesting one, for sure. I mean, we just don't know, really. However, there is enough evidence to suggest (and Stevie has talked about it before) that the offstage relationship (even something as simple as the mood they're in that day or if they had a little tiff, etc) definitely affects the onstage dynamic, and neither Lindsey nor her are good actors. It's not a mere matter of pretendsies on stage. Also, they don't - and haven't ALWAYS use/d different or separate hotels. Stevie LOVES to emphasise the separate hotel thing but it's not always true. I do enjoy how, as she did in her Jimmy Fallon interview in 2009, she seems to think she needs to segue from 'oh, lindsey and i get to re-live our love affair onstage every night' straight into 'BUT we get offstage and go ALONE to our SEPARATE limos and SEPARATE hotels' like otherwise everyone would assume they were hooking up.

ETA: Is this a direct quote or are you impersonating Stevie to be funny

Oh, no! I couldn't make up anything THAT good (though there are ones that make me laugh/swoon/wince even more, tbh). Classic Stevie, that one. Undermining the emotional significance of Lindsey's actual marriage whilst emphasising the still partly unchanged nature of their selves and relationship one interview at a time.