[elle]

Originally Posted by elle

talking about hits, i was [pleasantly] surprised that Gold Dust Woman and Landslide seem to be 2 SN songs that got by far the biggest recognition reaction as they started during these shows. and GDW was never a single or a "legitimate" hit right? kinda like The Chain or SHN.

it's almost like many of the songs that were not released as singles when the albums first came out were actually better and had more staying power than many that were.

i still stand by this argument. GDW, Landslide, Second Hand News and The Chain (besides GYOW and Dreams) seem to be played more by classic rock stations in DC/Philly area than BN's other "charting" hits. those songs stood the test of time, whether or not they were released as singles.

Rhiannon... do you remember SN doing it with Taylor Swift at grammys and all those tweets asking what is this song about Rhianna?

Originally Posted by WildHearted

Hits on the Billboard 100 for the Rumours lineup divide up like this:


Christine
Everywhere -14
Little Lies - 4
Love In Store - 22
Hold Me - 4
Think About Me - 20
You Make Loving Fun - 9
Don't Stop - 3
Say You Love Me - 11
Over My Head - 20

Stevie
Seven Wonders - 19
Gypsy - 12
Fireflies - 60
Sisters of the Moon - 86
Sara - 7
Dreams - 1
Rhiannon - 11

Lindsey
Go Your Own Way - 10
Tusk - 8
Big Love - 5
Family Man - 90

So, looking at the top 20 for example - Chris has 8, Stevie has 5, and Lindsey has 3. Lindsey actually has more top 10 hits than Stevie, by one.

exactly - depends on where you make the cut. there was a recent article (RS?) listing FM top 10 hits and people here seemed surprised and miffed because it broke down as 4 Christine, 2 Stevie and 3 Lindsey (guess Lindsey with FM either has a huge hit or he goes down in flames ).
(btw thanks for the list, i was lazy to go look for it. )

Originally Posted by bethelblues

As for other songs, there are certainly perceived 'hits', or what the band would call must-play songs that weren't singles. There's the band's total effort The Chain. Lindsey's are Secondhand News and Never Going Back Again. Slightly behind those two is I'm So Afraid, which,

these "perceived hits" are still different from the "must played" songs. so if we are already dissecting this, we should separate those 2 categories also. ISA is a must played song, but not a perceived hit.

i agree with you on Landslide, GDW, The Chain, SHN and NGBA being "perceived hits". these songs are instantly recognized by anybody, and Landslide, GDW and NGBA were extensively covered by other artists and those covers are or have been in rotation on various stations (didn't someone tweet when NGBA started that FM is covering that song? ).

i disagree with you on Silver Springs. i never hear that one on the radio and don't see it listed on any "greatest songs" list, and in concert general audience doesn't seem to be that familiar with it. it does seem to be iconic among shippers but those people are not your general audience.

although, maybe we just listen to different radio stations. you may be listening to adult contemporary while i'm referring to classic rock.

Originally Posted by bethelblues

They are a balanced trio: Christine = pop relevancy. Lindsey = sound and direction of the group. Stevie = the most talented songwriter, and I'd argue the writer of their most lasting and uniquely Fleetwood Mac songs.

i think it's hard to argue against your first 2 points (Christine and Lindsey) because that's backed up by some facts like a number of Christine's top 10 or top 20 hits, and Lindsey's credits for production. the 3rd one - that Stevie is the most talented songwriter is an opinion, not a fact . so while you may believe that, and majority on these boards who are SN-fans first may support you in that, that's hardly a fact .

it's probably a pretty easy argument to make that of all FM songwriters, over different incarnations, by far the most talented one (and i mean no competition whatsoever how far ahead he is!) is Peter Green. the number of iconic, amazing, lasting songs that man wrote in the short amount of time he was really active is astounding. if nothing else, is there anybody who hasn't heard Black Magic Woman?

Originally Posted by bethelblues

Gradual Hits over Time, eventually singles = Landslide, Silver Springs
'Perceived Hits'/Non-singles = I still wonder about Songbird---does anyone hear that song on the radio??? It seems like perfect Adult Contemporary material. I'm not sure if non-singles cannot be played, but then Gold Dust Woman appears on classic rock stations.

yes. as does Second Hand News and The Chain. but not Silver Springs.

Songbird was covered by Willie Nelson, among others.

Songbird and ISA while concert staples, i would not necessarily count among any kind of radio hits. i don't think ISA ever had much or any radio play.

Originally Posted by shackin'up

Dreams was NOT #1 in my country. But Go Your Own Way was. (As was Oh Well in 1969). Who gets that compensation?

and Albatross.
(but than there's embarrassment of Oh Diane charting in UK... , but i guess not in your country)