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k115810 04-18-2003 10:15 AM

Bleed to Love Her - LATE DRUMS!!!!
 
Does it irritate anyone else that the first drum beat in Bleed to Love Her is just slightly late? For me, it completely takes me out of the song.

-Matt

DrummerDeanna 04-18-2003 10:22 AM

Nope...in several interviews Lindsey has mentioned that Mick's style is slightly behind the beat...which I've always thought was odd...considering drums KEEP The beat...but whatever...I think it works in the song...they would not have kept it in if there was just no reason for it....

k115810 04-18-2003 10:38 AM

yuk
 
There's a difference between slightly behind the beat and plain late.

It's really jarring in the context of Lindsey's very exact acoustic playing in that tune. Not to mention, we all have the memory of the correct drum intro on The Dance's version.

DrummerDeanna 04-18-2003 10:59 AM

The "correct" drum intro? Okay, the Dance was a live recording, live recordings by definition are different from studio recordings. From a musician standpoint...this is not a huge issue in the song for me....that's all I am saying....in fact I have no problems with any of the songs on the cd....they all rock! imo.

xhector 04-18-2003 11:42 AM

Yes, it does irritate me also, Matt.
I use to adore all the weird ideas by Lindsey but this one is totally unnecessary to such a beautiful one like Bleed.. It does not contribute to the song at all, only disturbs. This song anyway should not be in SYW, everyone will agree that the version is far inferior to The Dance's one.

tommer 04-18-2003 11:49 AM

read this

k115810 04-18-2003 11:57 AM

likes the studio version better?
 
That's interesting that he would like the studio version better. I mean, I enjoy how pristine the acoustic guitar sounds, but it seems to have lost some of its organic feel that the live version had.

It's a strange and sort of unusual phenomen to learn a song from its live version first.

xhector 04-18-2003 11:57 AM

OK, everyone BUT Lindsey will agree that the version is far inferior to The Dance's one. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Gypsy-Rhiannon 04-18-2003 12:25 PM

Nope.... doesn't bother me at all. Totally love this song regardless

Pip

mylittledemon 04-18-2003 03:14 PM

BLEED2LUVHER
 
Don't get me wrong, I love the DANCE version probably a little better because it came first. However, I think the new version is killer. The last minute of the song after the vocal ends is beautiful. I love it.

Bella Figura 04-18-2003 03:15 PM

I know some people believe that Bleed to Love Her should not be on Say You Will, but to keep the new album within the context of the FM story, it needs to be there. After all, it was Lindsey working on the song which convinced him to bring in Mick and John which got the whole Dance reunion ball rolling. So as far as the history goes, the studio version of Bleed to Love Her has a very important place on this album.

For me, having more than one version of any FM song be it live, demo, alternate mix and final album version is always fun. I love to hear the differences...even mistakes. Take the the Dances' NJ live concert version of Silver Springs... is more special because since Stevie apparently broke down emotionally, Lindsey sings the final verse. It's one of my favorites...

Janet 04-18-2003 10:44 PM

Oh Bella--I was there when Stevie lost it during Silver Springs.

I can't remember fully, because it's been some time, but I know it was just a magical time, that entire tour, and it was the second to last show. He finished it for her--I didn't think she was upset but again, I can't remember totally, and there has been NO VIDEOS found of it!

Nothing can beat that!! But nothing can beat the Dance tour imo, I know already before ONE SHOW that the SYW tour won't beat the Dance...or the music, the mood.

Bleed to Love Her, I have to listen to that yet. I just got the limited cd today and I am getting ready now to listen to it in a dark room while I drink some white wine.

DownOnRodeo 04-18-2003 11:41 PM

Re: Bleed to Love Her - LATE DRUMS!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by k115810
Does it irritate anyone else that the first drum beat in Bleed to Love Her is just slightly late? For me, it completely takes me out of the song.

Yeah Matt it irks me too :( (stupid WB exec - what does he know about music?? :confused: )

gldstwmn 04-19-2003 01:12 AM

I love the song and one of the things I like about Mick's drumming is he plays behind the beat. The studio version sounds great to me.

ERigby818 04-19-2003 07:41 AM

Is Lindsey CRAZY?
 
How could he not be anything less than thrilled over how the Dance version came out?! It was SO UNBELIEVABLY GOOD.
I love both versions, and was not bothered by the late beat...until I read this thread.
-Sonia


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