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slipkid 06-11-2015 12:05 AM

Munich 1970: Is it possible Peter Green discovered Krautrock?
 
I don't believe what Mick, and John will tell the media that Peter Green "snapped" in Munich, because he didn't. The fact that he came back reluctantly to replace Jeremy Spencer nine months later does not scream Syd Barrett. Peter Green was bored with Fleetwood Mac, and he wanted to leave. His mental illness came later after he left the band. He was not right by 1973.

In March 1970 Munich, there was this band named Can. They were labeled "Krautrock". They made King Crimson sound like the Beatles in 1963. This band was the equivalent of free jazz in rock music. It's rumored that this was the band Peter Green jammed with in the basement of that mansion in Munich 3/70. If Mick , Jeremy, and John heard this music as per the Peter Green BBC doc from 2007, you would think in 1970 it came from another planet. This explains "The End of the Game". Peter Green wasn't crazy, he was bored and explored a form a rock music that was forty years ahead of it's time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlMFm9touZ8

Rubber Duck 06-11-2015 06:08 AM

Peter Green was obviously trying/wanting to expand his musical horizon - and he was doing so from late 1968 to 1971 (at least).
From Albatross to Beasts of Burden he (with a little help from his friends...) achieved some amazing music!

But of course PG didn´t "discover" krautrock - the german experimental ("rock") groups had been active since 1967/68.
The term "krautrock" didn´t exist until 1971, though. See this for probable origins:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stephe...e/13285796895/

THD 06-11-2015 09:56 AM

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In March 1970 Munich, there was this band named Can. They were labeled "Krautrock". They made King Crimson sound like the Beatles in 1963. This band was the equivalent of free jazz in rock music. It's rumored that this was the band Peter Green jammed with in the basement of that mansion in Munich 3/70.

Do you have any links that would prove this Slipkid ?Fascinating if it was so cause the High Fish Commune was closely associated with Amon Duul II rather than Can ,I believe
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lazy poker 06-11-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by slipkid (Post 1167994)
In March 1970 Munich, there was this band named Can. They were labeled "Krautrock". They made King Crimson sound like the Beatles in 1963. This band was the equivalent of free jazz in rock music. It's rumored that this was the band Peter Green jammed with in the basement of that mansion in Munich 3/70.

Do you have any links that would prove this Slipkid ?Fascinating if it was so cause the High Fish Commune was closely associated with Amon Duul II rather than Can ,I believe
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i agree with you, thd - if one of these bands was actually involved in those sessions, then my 2 cents are on amon düül as well, because can was a band from cologne.

BUT . . . there were TWO bands existing in munich at that time, amon düül 1 and amon düül 2. the original amon düül had split up into those 2 commune bands in 1968 already. that takes the question even further as to which of them MIGHT have been jamming with our heroes that night . . . IF AT ALL! but i never heard any rumours about that before. :shrug:

slipkid 06-11-2015 11:28 PM

It was an illogical leap based on emotion
 
When I heard the youtube link of Can from 1969, it just made sense that Peter Green's musical direction was beyond playing blues rock for FM after Munich. After hearing "You Doo Right", it reminded me of "The End of the Game". If it wasn't Can who played that night, it was another band of the same genre.

Karl-Heinz 07-16-2015 01:18 PM

Man, i'm a "kraut" myself, are you kiddin' ?

CAN were from Cologne, this incident was at a Castle Close to Landshut in Bavaria, CAN had nothing to do with assholes like Rainer Langhans

dino 07-16-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl-Heinz (Post 1169935)
Man, i'm a "kraut" myself, are you kiddin' ?

CAN were from Cologne, this incident was at a Castle Close to Landshut in Bavaria, CAN had nothing to do with assholes like Rainer Langhans


But Amon Duul started out in Munich.

Karl-Heinz 07-17-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dino (Post 1169939)
But Amon Duul started out in Munich.

Yes, that's true; they may even exist today ah, really still alive and well

http://www.amonduul.de/intro.html


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