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KarmaContestant 07-10-2012 08:14 AM

Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin
 
This is taken from a total right-wing rag, but was shared on Facebook by Anne Rice. I thought it was interesting, but I wonder about the realistic task of bringing down the pyramids. Righ-wing Islamists are already starting to destroy parts of what is left of the ancient city of Timbuktu, in defiance of it being classed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/raymond...-the-pyramids/

According to several reports in the Arabic media, prominent Muslim clerics have begun to call for the demolition of Egypt’s Great Pyramids—or, in the words of Saudi Sheikh Ali bin Said al-Rabi‘i, those “symbols of paganism,” which Egypt’s Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax. Most recently, Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sunni Sheikhs” and President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud, called on Egypt’s new president, Muhammad Morsi, to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As could not.”

This is a reference to the Muslim Prophet Muhammad’s companion, Amr bin al-As and his Arabian tribesmen, who invaded and conquered Egypt circa 641. Under al-As and subsequent Muslim rule, many Egyptian antiquities were destroyed as relics of infidelity. While most Western academics argue otherwise, according to early Muslim writers, the great Library of Alexandria itself—deemed a repository of pagan knowledge contradicting the Koran—was destroyed under bin al-As’s reign and in compliance with Caliph Omar’s command.

However, while book-burning was an easy activity in the 7th century, destroying the mountain-like pyramids and their guardian Sphinx was not—even if Egypt’s Medieval Mamluk rulers “de-nosed” the latter during target practice (though popular legend still attributes it to a Westerner, Napoleon).

Now, however, as Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sheikhs” observes, and thanks to modern technology, the pyramids can be destroyed. The only question left is whether the Muslim Brotherhood president of Egypt is “pious” enough—if he is willing to complete the Islamization process that started under the hands of Egypt’s first Islamic conqueror.

Nor is such a course of action implausible. History is laden with examples of Muslims destroying their own pre-Islamic heritage—starting with Islam’s prophet Muhammad himself, who destroyed Arabia’s Ka‘ba temple, transforming it into a mosque.

Asking “What is it about Islam that so often turns its adherents against their own patrimony?” Daniel Pipes provides several examples, from Medieval Muslims in India destroying their forefathers’ temples, to contemporary Muslims destroying their non-Islamic heritage in Egypt, Iraq, Israel, Malaysia, and Tunisia.

Currently, in what the International Criminal Court is describing as a possible “war crime,” Islamic fanatics are destroying the ancient heritage of the city of Timbuktu in Mali—all to Islam’s triumphant war cry, “Allahu Akbar!”

Much of this hate for their own pre-Islamic heritage is tied to the fact that, traditionally, Muslims do not identify with this or that nation, culture, heritage, or language, but only with the Islamic nation—the Umma.

Accordingly, while many Egyptians—Muslims and non-Muslims alike—see themselves as Egyptians, Islamists have no national identity, identifying only with Islam’s “culture,” based on the “sunna” of the prophet and Islam’s language, Arabic. This sentiment was clearly reflected when the former Leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, Muhammad Akef, declared “the hell with Egypt,” indicating that the interests of his country are secondary to Islam’s.

It is further telling that such calls are being made now—immediately after a Muslim Brotherhood member became Egypt’s president. In fact, the same reports discussing the call to demolish the last of the Seven Wonders of the Word, also note that Egyptian Salafis are calling on Morsi to banish all Shias and Baha’is from Egypt.

In other words, Morsi’s call to release the Blind Sheikh, a terrorist mastermind, may be the tip of the iceberg in coming audacity. From calls to legalize Islamic sex-slave marriage to calls to institute “morality police” to calls to destroy Egypt’s mountain-like monuments, under Muslim Brotherhood tutelage, the bottle has been uncorked, and the genie unleashed in Egypt.

Will all those international institutions, which make it a point to look the other way whenever human rights abuses are committed by Muslims, lest they appear “Islamophobic,” at least take note now that the Great Pyramids appear to be next on Islam’s hit list, or will the fact that Muslims are involved silence them once again—even as those most ancient symbols of human civilization are pummeled to the ground?

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Nathan 07-10-2012 01:33 PM

Interesting.

Rock Center with Bee Williams had a segment about grave robbers all over those pyramid areas. Scary, it makes me want to go see them now.

BombaySapphire3 07-10-2012 05:03 PM

Terrible..that is what I like about Catholicism..we kept alot of the paganism and even added to it.

chiliD 07-10-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1057960)
Terrible..that is what I like about Catholicism..we kept alot of the paganism and even added to it.

Not just Catholicism...ALL of Christianity. :nod:

Just wonder how many Islamic Fundamentalist suicide bombers get to the "other side" and find out that their whole belief system was wrong? :shrug:

Likewise with all the other religious zealots (of all religions) who are overtly & publicly judgemental that "their way" is the "only way".

TrueFaith77 07-10-2012 09:25 PM

I will stay out of this thread. :angel:

Macfanforever 07-11-2012 11:03 AM

I don't like discussing politics or religion on forum boards.It could get nasty.I stay out of this too.

KarmaContestant 07-11-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1057984)
I will stay out of this thread. :angel:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1058029)
I don't like discussing politics or religion on forum boards.It could get nasty.I stay out of this too.

I don't really see the thread being about either of those, though I guess the article is. The destruction of the pyramids would, ironically, be the result of both of those.

The pyramids of Egypt are such an incredible feat of architecture and engineering that -despite centuries of investigation- there is still no proven theory for exactly how they were built. Everyone has their ideas, but no one knows. They could be destroyed in an instant, however. What a barbaric loss of human heritage that would be. No more or less barbaric than it would be to blow up Europe's great cathedrals; Machu Picchu; the Great Wall; the Louvre - or to commit genocide against an entire nationality, ethnicity or faith.

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Personally, I think the American taboo on discussing religion and politics is why we are, as a nation, in this totally f'k-ed up socio-political identity crisis, with people swinging wildly to the left or right - people who seem to have nothing in common anymore. After so many years of holding it in, people just want to explode. And they are, unfortunately.

It is also my opinion that Americans are so afraid of discussing their differences, they have, as a result, totally forgotten how to discuss their commonalities.

Meanwhile there is an awful lot of pretense of being "united" and being "American" whatever the heck that even means anymore. I don't think it really means much of anything, since all 311 million of us should, if we're being honest, readily admit we have nothing in common with other Americans who don't conform to the same political and religious opinions, yet we're all stuck here, together, to try and fake it and work it out superficially.

More likely, it's always been this way. :shrug:

Macfanforever 07-11-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1058055)
I don't really see the thread being about either of those, though I guess the article is. The destruction of the pyramids would, ironically, be the result of both of those.

The pyramids of Egypt are such an incredible feat of architecture and engineering that -despite centuries of investigation- there is still no proven theory for exactly how they were built. Everyone has their ideas, but no one knows. They could be destroyed in an instant, however. What a barbaric loss of human heritage that would be. No more or less barbaric than it would be to blow up Europe's great cathedrals; Machu Picchu; the Great Wall; the Louvre - or to commit genocide against an entire nationality, ethnicity or faith.

***

Personally, I think the American taboo on discussing religion and politics is why we are, as a nation, in this totally f'k-ed up socio-political identity crisis, with people swinging wildly to the left or right - people who seem to have nothing in common anymore. After so many years of holding it in, people just want to explode. And they are, unfortunately.

It is also my opinion that Americans are so afraid of discussing their differences, they have, as a result, totally forgotten how to discuss their commonalities.

Meanwhile there is an awful lot of pretense of being "united" and being "American" whatever the heck that even means anymore. I don't think it really means much of anything, since all 311 million of us should, if we're being honest, readily admit we have nothing in common with other Americans who don't conform to the same political and religious opinions, yet we're all stuck here, together, to try and fake it and work it out superficially.

More likely, it's always been this way. :shrug:

No I'm not trying to say that about this thread .I speaking in general.
I'm just shocked about the pyramids of Egypt.

KarmaContestant 07-11-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1058059)
No I'm not trying to say that about this thread .I speaking in general.

I was speaking in general as well. :angel:

Macfanforever 07-11-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1058076)
I was speaking in general as well. :angel:

Ok. I understand.

ButterCookie 07-11-2012 06:22 PM

So many things wrong with this thread.

Fireflies 07-16-2012 04:07 AM

http://www.thedailynewsegypt.com/201...giza-pyramids/


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