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Macfanforever 04-19-2012 01:25 PM

Like or Dislike: "Sometimes Its a Bitch"
 
From Timespace - The Best of Stevie Nicks (1991) Writers Jon Bon Jovi/Billy Falcon .

I like this tune myself.I had to skip the song at work due to some of the co-workers did not like the word bitch. Love the video with all the old vid clips and photos of her through the years.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timespa...f_Stevie_Nicks



Jondalar 04-19-2012 03:35 PM

First off, I don't I have never been a huge fan of Bon Jovi. I liked Living on a Prayer and that's about it. I think they are sorta generic rock. I like some of the lyrics to song, but it's overproduced and I don't like how she sings it. I also don't like the extra lyrics she adds at the end. Of course I saw Bon Jovi on an interview talk about working with Stevie and they feeling I got was she wouldn't listen to any suggestions. It's ok.

windbecame 04-19-2012 04:01 PM

well, i voted dislike... i remember loving this when it came out- the whole NEW music from Stevie thing...and i certainly do like the video.. i don't really dislike it (if i'm listening to Timespace i won't skip it) but it's definetly NOT a song i will suddenly , randomly go - "ooh, i need to hear SIAB" if that makes any sense??? LOL

now if it had been a duet on the other hand, i'd probably like it just because i love her in almost any duet...

mitzo 04-19-2012 04:22 PM

I like it fine, it is a good singalong and suits Stevie and the era in which it was done. I have always loathed Bon Jovi, though.

pattyfan 04-19-2012 05:39 PM

Hmm, dislike isn't strong enough for me ;) But I do love all the clips in the video :) Very nostalgic :)

Kevin

pattyfan 04-19-2012 05:42 PM

I just noticed listening to it now...Does Stevie say "Sometimes it's roses and sometimes it's weed?" or "weeds"? It's supposed to be weeds I think but that's not what I heard. Going back to listen again...


Kevin

Etisl 04-19-2012 05:51 PM

oye..... I love the video, but I don't like the song. Call me old fashioned, but I have never like the word "Bitch" in a song.........Especially from STevie....the lyrics did not scream Stevie, they screamed "Bon Jovi...trying to hard!" Not even a good Bon Jovi song, I might add.... :shrug: Luckily, she got back to her great writing again after Timespace (with the exception of Street Angel)...and gave us beautiful gems like "Moonlight", "Love Is", "Planets of the Universe", "Touched by an Angel"....and many many more....those songs sound like Stevie, and you can hear the love of the song in her voice....it doesn't sound like she is trying for a hit, now just doing it for the love of the music...and if a great hit comes out...even better.

IKV Nexis 04-19-2012 06:19 PM

Needs a third option.

Like

Dislike

Meh...
:]

Artemis 04-19-2012 06:29 PM

Eh, it's not a fabulous song by any means, and I'll never go "Oooh, you know which Stevie Nicks song I want to listen to / you should really hear?" and say this one. But if it comes up on shuffle I won't skip it... half the time. :laugh: It's just a sort of... eeeeh song really.

vivfox 04-19-2012 08:08 PM

This is a great song and the lyrics fit her life perfectly. Stevie was forced to record this and Love's A Hard Game To Play by her record company. She was appalled at having to use a swear word in the title of a song. I love the video also. More impotantly to me, the cassette B-side in 1991 when it was released contained the awesome song Desert Angel. I had just moved to Phoenix in 1991 and when she sang about living below the great red mountain (Camelback Mountain) in Paradise Valley I was overjoyed because these places were right in my backyard(figuritively).

Jondalar 04-19-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1048505)
This is a great song and the lyrics fit her life perfectly. Stevie was forced to record this and Love's A Hard Game To Play by her record company. She was appalled at having to use a swear word in the title of a song. I love the video also. More impotantly to me, the cassette B-side in 1991 when it was released contained the awesome song Desert Angel. I had just moved to Phoenix in 1991 and when she sang about living below the great red mountain (Camelback Mountain) in Paradise Valley I was overjoyed because these places were right in my backyard(figuritively).

Uggg Desert Angel makes me have the runs and the farts :( I think it's becuase it PURE ****.

Nathan 04-19-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1048506)
Uggg Desert Angel makes me have the runs and the farts :( I think it's becuase it PURE ****.

That's neat.

I love 'castles of candy', and 'I sweeear I could flyyy like an eagllle...'.
I always thought she should do SIAB as an encore, with just her and the piano. I love that loud, thunderous piano in the background of the chorus on the album version. The lyrics should be changed. MY remix is 'sometimes it stays and sometimes it leaves'.

Desert Angel is alright, I like some of the words there too.

Macfanforever 04-19-2012 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1048506)
Uggg Desert Angel makes me have the runs and the farts :( I think it's becuase it PURE ****.

Hahahahahaha................I love that song.It's sad.


Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1048505)
This is a great song and the lyrics fit her life perfectly. Stevie was forced to record this and Love's A Hard Game To Play by her record company. She was appalled at having to use a swear word in the title of a song. I love the video also. More impotantly to me, the cassette B-side in 1991 when it was released contained the awesome song Desert Angel. I had just moved to Phoenix in 1991 and when she sang about living below the great red mountain (Camelback Mountain) in Paradise Valley I was overjoyed because these places were right in my backyard(figuritively).

I remember hearing on a interview .Stevie was a little shakin' about recording Sometimes its a Bitch because of the word bitch.She was worried about her mother and father getting upset over her using curse words in her tunes.I might be wrong.

David 04-19-2012 10:08 PM

This is an atrocious song but I still love it.

The words are as bad as anything any hair band ever wrote. I think they were probably written by a teenage female fan of Bon Jovi who was instructed to write her impression of Stevie Nicks and then mix it up with styles by Ratt and Dokken.

There were always some things I hated about Stevie--her narcissism, her insufferable notion that hers was a tempestuous, grandly romantic life, and the complete absence in her songs of any humor or healthy self-depreciation. And wouldn't ya know, this entire song fits all that crap to a T. "I've cried a river of tears from the pain." Oh, puhleeze.

And who's brilliant idea was it to make the 1991 Stevie Nicks traverse an octave interval on the chorus? I mean ... STUPID. :rolleyes:

There's so much eye-popping badness in this one that I just love it! It's precious--it's one of a kind.

Nathan 04-19-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1048526)
This is an atrocious song but I still love it.

There were always some things I hated about Stevie--her narcissism, her insufferable notion that hers was a tempestuous, grandly romantic life

These are two atrocious qualities, but I still love them.


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