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CADreaming 02-20-2012 08:57 AM

Favorite Buckingham Nicks song by LB
 
Vote for your favorite BN era song written by LB.

Note: Not included is the co-write Frozen Love (Lindsey's contribution was the guitar solo per Stevie) and the instrumental only, Stephanie.

Hard choice for me - I love Without a Leg to Stand On, but DLMDA is just a super fun/catchy song. My only complaint is the lyric. The song title is never in it and it drives me nuts.

elle 02-20-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1040679)
Vote for your favorite BN era song written by LB.

Note: Not included is the co-write Frozen Love (Lindsey's contribution was the guitar solo per Stevie) and the instrumental only, Stephanie.

Hard choice for me - I love Without a Leg to Stand On, but DLMDA is just a super fun/catchy song. My only complaint is the lyric. The song title is never in it and it drives me nuts.

thanks so much for making the poll CAD!:xoxo:

i like just one of these songs...

yeah Django and FL should have been included in some of the other polls, but i just didn't remember BN stuff at the time for some reason... probably b/c when we started discussing which songs to include in which poll we realized how many we are forgetting, so i went to amazon and just copied all LB songs available for DL there that are listed either under his name or under FM. and then we started adding what was missing but nobody suggested these at the time (probably my fault b/c i was impatient to get started).

elle 02-20-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1040679)
Note: Not included is the co-write Frozen Love (Lindsey's contribution was the guitar solo per Stevie) and the instrumental only, Stephanie.

interesting! if true, wonder why she didn't give him a co-write in Landslide, SS, SYW... the list is endless?

(remember the Tusk doc when LB says to SN something like "sing your melody for me - to see whether we are going to keep any of it" as they are figuring out the melody for Angel?)

bombaysaffires 02-20-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1040695)
interesting! if true, wonder why she didn't give him a co-write in Landslide, SS, SYW... the list is endless?

(remember the Tusk doc when LB says to SN something like "sing your melody for me - to see whether we are going to keep any of it" as they are figuring out the melody for Angel?)

Yes that was Angel, and what he was doing there is no different from what producers and arrangers do for songwriters all the time... helping them tweak and improve their songs to make them records that will get played on the radio. In the case of Frozen Love, he wrote this entire epic guitar piece-- my suspicion it was probably a piece of music he had been working on already that might have gotten turned into its own song or whatever-- that got grafted onto the lyrics and melody (the "song" part of FL) to make it the epic that it became.

poetinmyheart 02-20-2012 11:58 AM

Without A Leg To Stand On. Tough choice though. Deliberated for awhile as I really like DLMDA too.

elle 02-20-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1040705)
Yes that was Angel, and what he was doing there is no different from what producers and arrangers do for songwriters all the time...

"sing your melody for me... to see whether we'll keep any of it"

that just shows you how clueless i am about the music business i guess!:p :rolleyes: producers discard the original melody and add new one all the time with no credit for songwriting?!?!?!? or do they give it to the team of songwriters to change it (i guess that happens a lot with today's pop stars, have no clue who's credited for those melodies?).

well, if somebody puts the melody together and the lyric songwriter gets all the credit that's just wrong imo. whatever happened in LB's case and with their entangled relationship i understand why he wouldn't take or get any credit, but other producers?!

wondergirl9847 02-20-2012 12:20 PM

Dlmda
 
I love the catchiness of DLMDA. It has this "chug-a-lug" sort of guitar work throughout that just....I dig it! :nod:

CADreaming 02-20-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1040710)
"sing your melody for me... to see whether we'll keep any of it"

that just shows you how clueless i am about the music business i guess!:p :rolleyes: producers discard the original melody and add new one all the time with no credit for songwriting?!?!?!? or do they give it to the team of songwriters to change it (i guess that happens a lot with today's pop stars, have no clue who's credited for those melodies?).

well, if somebody puts the melody together and the lyric songwriter gets all the credit that's just wrong imo. whatever happened in LB's case and with their entangled relationship i understand why he wouldn't take or get any credit, but other producers?!

In the case of Stevie & Lindsey -- I believe what they have both said is that it is Stevie's original melody and lyrics and then Lindsey works around that, putting all the other pieces together musically and probably removing the last oh 20 verses (lol) or so to make it into an actual song rather than just a poem with a melody. In the Tusk doc, I thought Lindsey was correcting her singing on her own melody and then she was covering for herself by telling him she had just rewrote it. LOL.

It is a gray area though, I agree. I used to think all the time that LB deserved credit on a lot of Stevie's stuff (if not almost all), but then again if she had the melody and the lyrics, he really was doing the producer's job - not necessarily playing the role of "co-writer". Also, I think a lot of this has changed in recent years with ghost writers, etc. If you can't write music I guess they "pair" you with someone who can, never mind your little three chord structure.

I can agree with bombaysaffires about "Frozen Love" - and this is why Stevie wanted Lindsey to have credit - she said he worked for over a year on the guitar solo until he had perfected it. Although, their collaborations on Stevie's material are so intertwined - I think it's why Christine described what they do as "writing songs together" and they got along very well when they were doing that - to me, that says a lot about their relationship professionally and even personally. They may disagree a lot, but it seems they hash it out until they come to a compromise and I would suspect are both happy with the end result - and probably proud of it. In the DR doc, he says he's thinking of cutting the guitar solo in a song - and before he can even finish she says "in half" and then she agrees. They've been doing that sort of thing for so many years and probably trust each each others judgement more than anyone. It doesn't mean they always agree, but when they do sometimes it is "magic". They complement (especially then) their strengths and weaknesses. I mean "Rhiannon" is a beautiful song Stevie wrote, but it became a rock anthem when Lindsey wrote the opening riff. And, Lindsey has referred to "Gypsy" as their greatest collaboration, but he is not credited as a "co-writer", he obviously looks at his involvement strictly as a producer. But, then on their most recent effort, "Soldier's Angel" which Stevie praised him glowingly for - he is not even credited as producer. I guess in a lot of ways they still see each other as a "package deal" musically.

Peestie 02-20-2012 12:43 PM

Without A Leg to Stand On. DLMDA is a good one as well but I've never been that fond of Lola. It just plods along without really doing anything particularly interesting.

Silver Springs 02-20-2012 12:50 PM

Without A Leg To Stand On will always be my favourite Buckingham Nicks song. It's even up there amongst the best of Fleetwood Mac, Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks. It's a beautiful, melodic song which I fell in love with on the first listen. Nothing could beat the euphoric line "Nobody wants to keep you when you're in love with the game", where Lindsey brings the note up high and swoops it back down to earth in a wonderful crescendo.

michelej1 02-20-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1040710)
that just shows you how clueless i am about the music business i guess!:p :rolleyes: producers discard the original melody and add new one all the time with no credit for songwriting?!?!?!? or do they give it to the team of songwriters to change it (i guess that happens a lot with today's pop stars, have no clue who's credited for those melodies?).

I think they usually use Stevie's melody, but I think as he has said, that her writing is loose, which leaves a lot of room open for him to work in his own threads or patterns within her melodies, which give the different parts of the song a cohesion. In fact, it sometimes ends up sounding like a second melody or underpinning. I think what Christine described happening with Dreams is what usually goes on between them.

Michele

Lindsfan 02-21-2012 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1040679)
Vote for your favorite BN era song written by LB.

Note: Not included is the co-write Frozen Love (Lindsey's contribution was the guitar solo per Stevie) and the instrumental only, Stephanie.

Waaa. Instrumental or not, I want Stephanie :shrug:

I know I'm not choosing Lola. Without a Leg to Stand On and Don't Let Me Down Again are so close for me...sooooo close.

Without a Leg is so cool and mellow...reminds me of something between Seals and Croft and Three Dog Night! Don't Let Me Down is just so fun and catchy.

:confused::confused::confused:

CADreaming 02-21-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsfan (Post 1040922)
Waaa. Instrumental or not, I want Stephanie :shrug:

I just didn't think it was fair to put an instrumental in with the others. I know that I don't look at it the same as I do his other songs. To me, all his instrumentals are in a class unto themselves. :sorry:

elle 02-22-2012 09:24 PM

come on people, please add more votes - we need to break this tie!! :wavey:

in the poll of just 3 songs, having 2 songs go on may be a bit of an overkill...

CADreaming 02-22-2012 09:27 PM

I am really surprised those these two songs are so close! Exciting to see such love for a BN only song, since they have performed DLMDA with FM.

Of course, I would love more BN choices to move forward. :D


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