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Stevie Nicks and Vanessa C., Kay eye ess ess eye en gee!

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^ See: Already existent thread that actually DOESN'T hyper-sexualize and make a mockery of bisexual women!

http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/

^ See also: A calendar! It's 2010. Sexuality jokes went out of style with ignorance.

Oh deary me. Maris, looks like we gotta open a kindergarten too!

I really am finding it hard to believe that you actually started this thread. From where I'm sat it looks like you find Vanessa's sexuality funny? That's downright offensive. The only thing making me laugh here is your immaturity. Seriously? Urgh, threads like this make me want to injure.

Personally, I think it takes a lot to come out as bisexual and I look up to and respect Vanessa for doing so. People like you, sir, are - I think - one of the reasons some people choose to stay in the closet as either gay or bisexual and that sickens me. What right do you have to mock her? None. That's what. What right do you have to 'control' who she tells? None.

I'm sure if she used a computer and/or read this, Stevie would react in the same way as Marissa and I. You've absolutely no right to bash her or her friends.

Oh goodness, you've got me all wrong. I'd be THRILLED if Stevie hit VC.

And yet the initial offence is still there :shocked:

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Originally Posted by DashingDan (Post 896883)

SISTER HONEY!!!!!

http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/06/21/v...lton-bisexual/

Really, its 2010. TONS of people are openly homosexual. You going around like a 3rd grader isnt a very good testament to your character. The funny thing is, you're a grown adult, and im a minor.

Think of that next time your all "OMGLESBIANSIMMUSTCREATEAHIGHLYIMPROBABLESHIP!"

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Originally Posted by roomsonfire21 (Post 896896)

Really, its 2010. TONS of people are openly homosexual. You going around like a 3rd grader isnt a very good testament to your character. The funny thing is, you're a grown adult, and im a minor.

Think of that next time your all "OMGLESBIANSIMMUSTCREATEAHIGHLYIMPROBABLESHIP!"

:lol: I'm a minor too!

I have one thing to say to V - back off my bitch, she's taken! :mad:

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Originally Posted by DashingDan (Post 896892)

Oh goodness, you've got me all wrong. I'd be THRILLED if Stevie hit VC.

Do you honestly not think saying that is offensive?

Let's learn.

I'm going to link you to a few articles about minority representation in the media because I'm guessing that's some of the only exposure you've had. I'll excerpt the points that are saliant to the bisexual or lesbian experience, but I hope you read the whole things because I think they might help you out a little.

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Some minorities are made more "appealing" to the mainstream audience (or part of it) by exoticizing the minority characters' sexuality. This is frequently the case with African American and Asian American women. It's also common to represent bisexual women as hypersexualized, an image that plays upon heterosexual male fantasy and has nothing to do with the real experiences of bisexual women.

Read more at Suite101: Minority Media Representations: Common Representations of Gays, African Americans, Other Minorities http://medialiteracy.suite101.com/ar...#ixzz0rXElg0hg

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Although women’s sexuality is no longer a taboo subject, many researchers question whether or not the blatant sexualization of women’s bodies in the media is liberating. Laurie Abraham, executive editor of Elle magazine, warns that the biggest problem with women’s magazines is "how much we lie about sex." Those "lies" continue to perpetuate the idea that women’s sexuality is subservient to men’s pleasure. In her study of Cosmopolitan and Playboy magazines, for example, Nicole Krassas found that both men and women’s magazines contain a single vision of female sexuality—that "women should primarily concern themselves with attracting and sexually satisfying men."

Read more at: http://www.media-awareness.ca/englis.../women_sex.cfm

Do you understand the way that your joke about Vanessa's sexuality, and then your insistance that you don't mind it because you like thinking about her and another woman, could be construed to put you firmly in the category of believing her sexuality is subservient to your pleasure?

Tune in next time for lessons on "othering," "privilege," and "the heteronomative patriarchy."

Honestly, I hate to get preachy, but these are really important topics (although I may have been being a little facetious on the heteronormative patriarchy.)

What I don't understand is the ignorance in some of the comments/reactions to her announcement. Some say that this is just a pathetic marketing ploy. Others say "Why do I have to know this?" Their anger is very curious to me.

For one thing, she said this during a Gay Pride festival! Obviously she felt she was in a comfortable and accepting environment to come out. I don't see this as pandering at all -- it's just Vanessa being truthful to herself and her audience.

Yes, her sexuality really doesn't matter overall, but it is an important facet of who she is. Why should anyone criticize her for that? It's so idiotic to see it as a marketing ploy. The comments just reek of ignorance and bigotry.