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Travis 11-20-2009 08:33 AM

Lady Gaga vs Shakira
 
Just curious, which do you prefer?

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OR

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JazmenFlowers 11-20-2009 09:10 AM

GAGALUPE of course! I LOVE Lady Gaga. she's the most exciting thing to happen to pop music and music videos in a long-ass time. Bad Romance is an amazingly catchy song and it's so unique. Gaga's way of working in Gothic elements, darker undertones into a catchy pop song with a great hook is genious.

TrueFaith77 11-20-2009 09:33 AM

I think Lady Gaga is the WORST thing to happen to pop music in a long time (and that's saying a lot). She removes meaning from everything. She just operates on arbitrary outrage and excitation. She appropriates performance art -- you know: that pretentious NY East Village trend that went out in the 80s and that Madonna (God help us) already perfected.

OK. So some of her songs got hooks. But what does she do with them?

ETA: For me the definitive Lady Gaga moment is in the Joseph Kahn-directed Paparazzi video: she's so corrupt and evil that she eats poison -- and lives.

ETA: A friend of mine, the playwright Ben Kessler, recently wrote this about Lady Gaga's new single:

Quote:

A friend balked at my use of the word "dirges" to describe Lady Gaga's music. A semi-defender of Gaga, he stated that her songs are too lively to deserve that epithet. I think this song proves us both right. Lady Gaga makes pop dirges that aspire to liveliness, i.e. dirges in denial.

The perspective of "Bad Romance" blends no-way-out, airless pathology with the vast remove of someone who has never had a romance, much less loved. Here, pretension, naivete and detachment combine to form a four-minute miniature of contemporary nihilism. Lady Gaga's grotesque guises & tunes provide a veritable runway show displaying the latest wares of a hyperactive, unmoored capitalist culture.

The Fame Monster, indeed.

Enchanted_Stevi 11-20-2009 09:37 AM

I like Lady Gaga more the Shakira

Travis 11-20-2009 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 855221)
I think Lady Gaga is the WORST thing to happen to pop music in a long time (and that's saying a lot). She removes meaning from everything. She just operates on arbitrary outrage and excitation. She appropriates performance art -- you know: that pretentious NY East Village trend that went out in the 80s and that Madonna (God help us) already perfected.

OK. So some of her songs got hooks. But what does she do with them?

ETA: For me the definitive Lady Gaga moment is in the Joseph Kahn-directed Paparazzi video: she's so corrupt and evil that she eats poison -- and lives.

ETA: A friend of mine, the playwright Ben Kessler, recently wrote this about Lady Gaga's new single:

make sure you cast your vote to even the score right now ;-)

TrueFaith77 11-20-2009 10:15 AM

Oh, I'm not voting. Shakira does nothing for me. :laugh:

Travis 11-20-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 855229)
Oh, I'm not voting. Shakira does nothing for me. :laugh:

Well, she doesn't compell you enough to dig up an article, so vote for her for that reason if nothing else :-). Do you really want Gaga to win? ;-)

vivfox 11-20-2009 10:45 AM

I really like GaGa's music and really like Shakira's music but haven't heard either of these songs (yet). But I'll vote for GaGa cause I like her more. Ha Ha.

TrueFaith77 11-20-2009 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis (Post 855232)
Well, she doesn't compell you enough to dig up an article, so vote for her for that reason if nothing else :-). Do you really want Gaga to win? ;-)

Only cuz i can pretend I'm voting for Kylie.

AgeOldDesire 11-20-2009 12:29 PM

A vote for Shakira is a vote against Caca.

TrueFaith77 11-20-2009 12:31 PM

Yes, in a word, Lady Gaga is "disgusting."

JazmenFlowers 11-20-2009 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 855251)
Yes, in a word, Lady Gaga is "disgusting."

why would you call her disgusting? I mean, that's a little extreme, isn't it?

Travis 11-20-2009 02:16 PM

Now now truefaith, I appreicate the Shakira vote but let's not get nasty. :o

Jazz, I hate that we are disagreeing on this because usually we are on par with each other.

I was diggin’ Gaga in the beginning (first two singles) but then I started to see her in interviews and she was turning me off. Then I saw her live and that sealed the deal. She talked more than she sang, “me me me me me.” (Sorry John L, I feel bad for being in a funk that night but I blame the Lady). I’ve always been a casual fan of Shakira’s but now I’m totally into her. She is bad ass without trying. She has a natural gift whereas Lady Gaga comes across affected. As a DJ, I still play Gaga (have to) and I can bounce along but... Shakira gets my vote.

"can we still be friends Jazz"? :)

T.

JazmenFlowers 11-20-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis (Post 855271)
Now now truefaith, I appreicate the Shakira vote but let's not get nasty. :o

Jazz, I hate that we are disagreeing on this because usually we are on par with each other.

I was diggin’ Gaga in the beginning (first two singles) but then I started to see her in interviews and she was turning me off. Then I saw her live and that sealed the deal. She talked more than she sang, “me me me me me.” (Sorry John L, I feel bad for being in a funk that night but I blame the Lady). I’ve always been a casual fan of Shakira’s but now I’m totally into her. She is bad ass without trying. She has a natural gift whereas Lady Gaga comes across affected. As a DJ, I still play Gaga (have to) and I can bounce along but... Shakira gets my vote.

"can we still be friends Jazz"? :)

T.

I dunno...gimme a day or two to think it over. lol. I think Gaga is one of those love or hate artists, but I'm so excited by her music (especially the new 8 songs) and her whole image. I like Shakira a lot too though so...

TrueFaith77 11-20-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 855265)
why would you call her disgusting? I mean, that's a little extreme, isn't it?

I called her "evil" and "corrupt" before. But "disgusting" is extreme? Evil and Corruption disgust me. And that MTV Awards performance. And the costume changes. And "OBAMAAAA ARE YOU LISTENING"... and, of course, the music. Yes. Disgusting.


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