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mylittledemon 09-18-2009 03:05 AM

I'm officially a KIWI
 
The New Zealand immigration office has officially approved my permanent residency! :]

EnchantedKiwi 09-18-2009 05:42 AM

Woooo! :nod:


Your now part of a very elite group of people :laugh:

Congrats!! :thumbsup:

Erin 09-18-2009 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon (Post 842849)
The New Zealand immigration office has officially approved my permanent residency! :]

Your first official act as a Kiwi will be to destroy some pesky ring I keep hearing about.:]

Are you going for actual citizenship? I'm always curious about these things as the United States doesn't recognize dual citizenship.

jenniferuk 09-18-2009 09:35 AM

Good for you! I've been there as far as paperwork and waiting games and know what a relief it is to finally reach the target.

I've the same question as Erin: will you apply for citizenship? I'm not sure of the Kiwi process.

The US doesn't encourage dual citizenship but allows it and allows dual passports--I am a dualie as are my husband and children and several friends You'll never lose your US citizenship unless you attend a hearing to renounce it. It's worth looking into--esp if you plan to stay there for awhile.

chiliD 09-18-2009 10:35 AM

Now you can be the "third Conchord"!!! :laugh:

Erin 09-18-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jenniferuk (Post 842865)
Good for you! I've been there as far as paperwork and waiting games and know what a relief it is to finally reach the target.

I've the same question as Erin: will you apply for citizenship? I'm not sure of the Kiwi process.

The US doesn't encourage dual citizenship but allows it and allows dual passports--I am a dualie as are my husband and children and several friends You'll never lose your US citizenship unless you attend a hearing to renounce it. It's worth looking into--esp if you plan to stay there for awhile.

Right, I know they allow it but don't they not recognize it? What I mean is to the United States you are an American citizen and that's it, i.e. your UK citizenship theoretically doesn't exist to the U.S. now that you are a citizen here or something like that?

Or conversely if Brandon becomes a New Zealand citizen the U.S. will still consider him a U.S. citizen regardless of the Kiwi citizenship?

I thought there was some law like that in effect, but I could just be talking out of my a**, since I've never had to deal with any of this!

Musicman408 09-18-2009 11:07 AM

That's exciting!! Congrats!!

mylittledemon 09-18-2009 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Erin (Post 842862)
Are you going for actual citizenship? I'm always curious about these things as the United States doesn't recognize dual citizenship.

Erin,

From what the Immigration office told me here, that is incorrect. The US discourages dual citizenship because you are then bound by the laws of two (or more) governments. I will be going for citizenship, but I have to be here for another 4 years. ;)

jenniferuk 09-18-2009 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Erin (Post 842882)
Right, I know they allow it but don't they not recognize it? What I mean is to the United States you are an American citizen and that's it, i.e. your UK citizenship theoretically doesn't exist to the U.S. now that you are a citizen here or something like that?

Or conversely if Brandon becomes a New Zealand citizen the U.S. will still consider him a U.S. citizen regardless of the Kiwi citizenship?

I thought there was some law like that in effect, but I could just be talking out of my a**, since I've never had to deal with any of this!

That's essentially correct but there isn't any law--no country really likes to acknowledge or recognise it but it's allowed (it used to be that it wasn't allowed but that was overturned some time ago). When Brandon becomes a NZ citizen the US government won't care--to the US gov he is American and always will be (unless he renounces). To the Kiwi's he'll be a Kiwi.

To the US, I am an American and to the UK/EU I am British/an EU citizen. I have to use my US passport when entering or leaving the US and use my UK passport when entering or leaving the EU: both countries insist upon that. I can vote in both countries, etc. However, my UK citizenship means nothing to the US and my US citizenship means nothing to the UK.

My husband is dual Aussie / British as he was born in Australia to British parents. He may apply for US citizenship next year if we end up staying here.

There are some cases in which dual citizenship can be a problem: certain Gov jobs will not give full security clearance if one is a dual, and becoming a US citizen brings a lifetime of filing US tax returns (even if you leave the US). There are lots of positives though, namely being able to move country without visas, work permits, etc.

Erin 09-18-2009 11:58 AM

Thanks! This is interesting. Note to self stick with one citizenship.:laugh:

chiliD 09-18-2009 12:04 PM

Yep, a friend of mine was born in Panama (to US parents), so he has dual citizenship to both US & Panama. In all the years I've known him, I don't know of a time that he's ever "used" his Panamanian citizenship for any reason. :shrug:

iamnotafraid 09-18-2009 07:19 PM

You Kiwi.

(never said those two words together before)

mylittledemon 09-18-2009 07:54 PM

:laugh:


Glad I could set that up for ya' ;)

mylittledemon 09-19-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by EnchantedKiwi (Post 842854)

Your now part of a very elite group of people :laugh:

Thanks Cheyne~! :woohoo: We're gonna have that pint one o' these days!


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