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BklynBlue 08-11-2008 07:39 PM

Composer credits - "Mr. Wonderful"
 
Couple of simple questions, easily answered if anyone has an original vinyl copy of "Mr. Wonderful" on a shelf, stashed in closet, or in a milk crate in the basement - and actually has access to it - :rolleyes:
The CD version of the LP that was part of the "Complete Blue Horizon Sessions" box set, lists Green alone as the composer for "Rollin' Man" on both the reproduction of the back of the jacket on the jewel case insert and in the accompanying booklet -
All other versions I have seen always list Green and C.G. Adams, just like all of the other Green numbers on the LP.

Could someone confirm for me how the track was listed on the original jacket and the label on the disc?

Secondly, again on the jacket reproduction, "Coming Home" is credited to Jeremy Spencer -
the booklet corrects this to show it was in fact an Elmore James song -

Again, I am curious as to how the song was credited on the original jacket and on the label

I thank you in advance

aleuzzi 08-11-2008 09:45 PM

I think the original credits are more accurate. I have a vintage collection of Mac's two first albums from the 70s and there the credits are the same as the original albums.

Wouter Vuijk 08-12-2008 07:50 PM

I have the original vinyl album (as released over here in Holland in 1968).
It credits:
Side 1
Stop Messin' Round (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)
I've Lost My Baby (J. Spencer)
Rollin' Man (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)
Dust My Broom (R. Johnson)
Love That Burns (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)
Doctor Brown (B. Brown)

Side 2
Need Your Love Tonight (J. Spencer)
If You Be My Baby (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)
Evenin' Boogie (J. Spencer)
Lazy Poker Blues (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)
Coming Home (E. James)
Trying So Hard To Forget (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)

dino 08-13-2008 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk (Post 768244)
I have the original vinyl album (as released over here in Holland in 1968).
It credits:
Side 1
Stop Messin' Round (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)
I've Lost My Baby (J. Spencer)
Rollin' Man (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)
Dust My Broom (R. Johnson)
Love That Burns (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)
Doctor Brown (B. Brown)

Side 2
Need Your Love Tonight (J. Spencer)
If You Be My Baby (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)
Evenin' Boogie (J. Spencer)
Lazy Poker Blues (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)
Coming Home (E. James)
Trying So Hard To Forget (P.A. Green - C.G. Adams)

I've often wondered about this. Sure, Clifford had been a musician, but I highly doubt he helped Greeny write those songs. Must have been a publishing technicality, does anyone know?

wetcamelfood 08-13-2008 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dino (Post 768274)
I've often wondered about this. Sure, Clifford had been a musician, but I highly doubt he helped Greeny write those songs. Must have been a publishing technicality, does anyone know?

I wonder if it was because Clifford had them sign over their copyrights which meant he could attach his names to some songwriting credits? Maybe not, but it sounds like from what we do know of their court case settlement that Clifford retained the rights to the pre 1973 material.

Just a guess though.

John

doodyhead 08-13-2008 06:07 PM

thats why people leave the music business
 
Clifford did this because this was done over in the state all the time
he learned this from the masters
he did the leg work and gets a percentage

thats why he could field a fleetwood mac of his own dupes

just ask BB King about "Taub", "josea" aand "ling"

he still has no idea how they get credited

I guess its better than $50 and a bottle of wine

sincerely,

doodyhead, mel, and vinnie

BklynBlue 08-13-2008 07:20 PM

Thanks to all how took the time to reply - The Ledge is my one stop shopping place for Fleetwood Mac information -

Doodyhead -
All of the B.B. King numbers with those writing credits were done for the Bihari brothers (West Coast rivals of the better known Chess Brothers in Chicago).
The Bihari’s owned Modern Records, RPM, Flair, Meteo, United, Crown (a budget LP line) –
There were three brothers and their writing pseudonyms usually broke down as follows:
Julius Bihari: “Taub” (their mother’s maiden name)
Sam Bihari: “Ling”
And Joe Bihari: “Josea” (often found on Elmore James’ songs)

which I am sure is more than anyone really needed to know, but I thought I would share

Thanks again everybody :nod:

dino 08-14-2008 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BklynBlue (Post 768359)
Thanks to all how took the time to reply - The Ledge is my one stop shopping place for Fleetwood Mac information -

Doodyhead -
All of the B.B. King numbers with those writing credits were done for the Bihari brothers (West Coast rivals of the better known Chess Brothers in Chicago).
The Bihari’s owned Modern Records, RPM, Flair, Meteo, United, Crown (a budget LP line) –
There were three brothers and their writing pseudonyms usually broke down as follows:
Julius Bihari: “Taub” (their mother’s maiden name)
Sam Bihari: “Ling”
And Joe Bihari: “Josea” (often found on Elmore James’ songs)

which I am sure is more than anyone really needed to know, but I thought I would share

Thanks again everybody :nod:


No, thanks, that was really interesting. I've often wondered about those names.
Clifford only did it on the 2nd album, though, that's strange.


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