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Gailh 03-14-2008 02:44 PM

Sheryl Crow
 
So who will be going to to see FM with Sheryl Crow?

Personally I will wait and see what the set list is. As I'm in the UK I'm assuming they'll tour the states first so I will get a chance to see what happens.

If Sheryl Crow sings lead on YMLF then I won't be parting with my cash.

What about everyone else?

Gail

strandinthewind 03-14-2008 03:05 PM

I think it is fine if she plays and sings on one or two CM chestnuts. After all, La Nicks and LB "covered" the earlier FM stuff and many wish they still would. Also, Bekka slayed GDW IMO.

In reality though, SC likely will sing one or two of "her" new FM songs, maybe one of her solo songs, and partcipate in the rest of the FM new and old stuff.

I mean the SYW incarnation only did one song, and I thought it was fine.

Of course, this question wil beg the question of whether people are just pissed that CM is not there and anyone at all sould be out of line for touching CM's stuff. I am not of that school.

David 03-14-2008 03:19 PM

Nothing against Sheryl personally -- she seems like a nice lady with great voice chops & all. But Fleetwood Mac is growing more generic by the hour. The only noteworthy idiosyncrasy the band has these days is that they let so much time slip by between windfalls. That I suppose must be regarded as perverse.

jbrownsjr 03-14-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 746464)
Nothing against Sheryl personally -- she seems like a nice lady with great voice chops & all. But Fleetwood Mac is growing more generic by the hour. The only noteworthy idiosyncrasy the band has these days is that they let so much time slip by between windfalls. That I suppose must be regarded as perverse.

You know David, my initial reaction is that they really just don't have that solid character anymore. They just seem so desperate to squeeze out tours and do the rumours thing again and again, it's become quite vanilla and all that chemistry has dissolved from repetetion and watered down instrumentations. Christine must be so happy having her own life again.

Stew_Matthews 03-14-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 746482)
Christine must be so happy having her own life again.

She probably had a wry smile on her face when she heard SYW. No matter how good the songs, arrangements and production - she just added that something that made it alot, lot better.

Sheryl Crow just aint Christine McVie.........

strandinthewind 03-14-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew_Matthews (Post 746489)
She probably had a wry smile on her face when she heard SYW. No matter how good the songs, arrangements and production - she just added that something that made it alot, lot better.

Sheryl Crow just aint Christine McVie.........

I think that if people are expecting that CM's place will be filled, they always will be disappointed. I think that is why on SYW, they tried to go to a new sound. I think they will do that with SC. I mean it is about a new sound. Comparisons to CM are, IMO, unfair.

Betsy 03-14-2008 05:56 PM

Call me stupid...

I thought that CM bowed out of SYW because she knew In the Meantime was right around the corner.

Why put up with all the BS and power struggles of the Mac, when you can be pleased with the direction YOU want to go?

I think she's happy in England and looks at Sheryl like "It's your turn to go a couple of rounds with LB in the ring."

jbrownsjr 03-14-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 746493)
I think that if people are expecting that CM's place will be filled, they always will be disappointed. I think that is why on SYW, they tried to go to a new sound. I think they will do that with SC. I mean it is about a new sound. Comparisons to CM are, IMO, unfair.

I don't expect SC to replace CM, nobody could (except maybe Christine Perfect LOL. My point is that the band has become so vanilla IMO. And I don't necessarilly think It's due to CM leaving although that didn't help. They just don't inspire me anymore, live or studio. The chemistry just isn't there, and the voices (live especially are horrendous). Adding Sheryl Crow seems like a desperation move to me. Who knows... I could be wrong...

michaelD 03-14-2008 06:37 PM

FM has been a band of changes... it's survived through them all.
Losing a key member like CM is a blow, but SC is talented too. Maybe she'll get them rock a little more???

Just another incarnation of the Mac, we'll how this one turns out.

jbrownsjr 03-14-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew_Matthews (Post 746489)
She probably had a wry smile on her face when she heard SYW. No matter how good the songs, arrangements and production - she just added that something that made it alot, lot better.

Sheryl Crow just aint Christine McVie.........

It's your love for jazz and amazing blues and jazz women that have taught you that Christine truly was legendary without ever having stepped inside of FMac. I can play Nina Simone and a few Chickenshack or Perfect tunes together and it just sounds so good together. Two women on piano and vocals that pour their unique hearts out. Talk about two strong minded women!

Stew_Matthews 03-14-2008 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 746563)
It's your love for jazz and amazing blues and jazz women that have taught you that Christine truly was legendary without ever having stepped inside of FMac. I can play Nina Simone and a few Chickenshack or Perfect tunes together and it just sounds so good together. Two women on piano and vocals that pour their unique hearts out. Talk about two strong minded women!

You're too cool for the ledge!

I'm not ever going to argue that Christine's tracks have always been the best on the FM albums (except for Songbird which is my favourite track on Rumours) but her INFLUENCE/INVOLVEMENT has been critical to the band. Her vocals or piano just make so many other tracks move from the above average to brilliant. And there is something about her songs that has moulded the Stevie/Lindsey contributions into solid great albums in a way that SYW didn't.

Angel69 03-14-2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew_Matthews (Post 746489)
She probably had a wry smile on her face when she heard SYW. No matter how good the songs, arrangements and production - she just added that something that made it alot, lot better.

Sheryl Crow just aint Christine McVie.........





I agree and disagree with you.

I don't think Christine had/has any ill will for Fleetwood Mac, she left on her own terms when she felt the time was right. As far as I know there was no major rift or anything of that nature. She probably was not crazy for everything on SYW, but Im sure she probably felt the same for some of Tusk.

Sheryl ain't no Christine.

Stew_Matthews 03-14-2008 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel69 (Post 746571)
I agree and disagree with you.

I don't think Christine had/has any ill will for Fleetwood Mac, she left on her own terms when she felt the time was right. As far as I know there was no major rift or anything of that nature. She probably was not crazy for everything on SYW, but Im sure she probably felt the same for some of Tusk.

Sheryl ain't no Christine.

I don't think for a minute that Christine has/had any ill will for the band - she doesn't seem to be that kind of person.

But she must have played the album and I'm sure she would have thought 'I would have done this' or 'I would have done that' and she must have realised that it could have been better with her involvement.

jbrownsjr 03-14-2008 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew_Matthews (Post 746570)
You're too cool for the ledge!

I'm not ever going to argue that Christine's tracks have always been the best on the FM albums (except for Songbird which is my favourite track on Rumours) but her INFLUENCE/INVOLVEMENT has been critical to the band. Her vocals or piano just make so many other tracks move from the above average to brilliant. And there is something about her songs that has moulded the Stevie/Lindsey contributions into solid great albums in a way that SYW didn't.

Listen to Crystal... The Fleetwood Mac version... check out the acoustic guitar and keyboard playing off each other... Now that's inspiring, doesn't bore me... and quite honestly moves me...

Stew_Matthews 03-14-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 746579)
Listen to Crystal... The Fleetwood Mac version... check out the acoustic guitar and keyboard playing off each other... Now that's inspiring, doesn't bore me... and quite honestly moves me...

Yes! And on Sara - the keyboard and guitars play off one another in probably the best song Stevie Nicks ever wrote. And (sorry about starting two sentences with 'And') one of the great things about having the cleaning lady version is understanding and appreciating the LIndsey/Christine thing that happened in that later mix. From the 'building your house' line the two play off one another just like jazz musicians........


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