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vivfox 12-11-2007 10:28 PM

Christine or the other girl?
 
Are there really humans who prefer Stevie Nicks to Christine McVie?

http://wunderlampe.livejournal.com/10671.html

I believe this person is waiting for your answer.

David 12-12-2007 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 734082)
Are there really humans who prefer Stevie Nicks to Christine McVie?

As difficult as it may be to believe, I do think that yes there are some people who prefer Nicks to Chris McVie. I don't pretend to understand such people, or even excuse them, or offer them clemency in times of social unrest. However, maybe such people simply aren't all that important to anyone but their loved ones. :nod:

strandinthewind 12-13-2007 09:36 AM

I think they are both great in very different ways. To the vast majority of people, La Nicks is the bright flame that draws the attention. She has a mystery and beauty that CM does not have. On the other hand, CM tends to shy away from the light and presents herself, when compelled to do so, in a straight forward manner. That is great, but it lessens her cache for many, especially when La Nicks' super nova is standing right there. Is Cm a better musician - no question, she is.

Anyway, I like them both.

danax6 12-13-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 734198)
I think they are both great in very different ways. To the vast majority of people, La Nicks is the bright flame that draws the attention. She has a mystery and beauty that CM does not have. On the other hand, CM tends to shy away from the light and presents herself, when compelled to do so, in a straight forward manner. That is great, but it lessens her cache for many, especially when La Nicks' super nova is standing right there. Is Cm a better musician - no question, she is.

I completely agree with every word. They both make me laugh too, although in completely different ways.

Gailh 12-13-2007 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 734198)
I think they are both great in very different ways. To the vast majority of people, La Nicks is the bright flame that draws the attention. She has a mystery and beauty that CM does not have. On the other hand, CM tends to shy away from the light and presents herself, when compelled to do so, in a straight forward manner. That is great, but it lessens her cache for many, especially when La Nicks' super nova is standing right there. Is Cm a better musician - no question, she is.

Anyway, I like them both.

Very nicely put.

I always think Christine is a musician and Stevie is a rock star.

Gail

David 12-13-2007 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 734207)
Very nicely put.

I always think Christine is a musician and Stevie is a rock star.

Gail

Stevie WAS a rock star. Chris is STILL a musician.

strandinthewind 12-13-2007 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 734222)
Stevie WAS a rock star.

I disagree. I think though "we" are tired of her set lists, etc., La Nicks still rocks the house on EO17, SB etc. I cannot tell you how many average fans I have spoken to at concerts that say she a rock star, etc. - and that is based on those newer performances. Having said that, La Nicks is nowhere near the lithe dancer with the huge voice that she was in 1981. But, that does not mean she still is not a rock star

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Originally Posted by David (Post 734222)
Chris is STILL a musician.

Yes, she is, though I did not think "In the Meantime" was a good example of that. I wish CM would do a record with piano only, no overdubs, and 30's music. I have always thought she could cover The Andrew Sisters as well.

Gailh 12-13-2007 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 734222)
Stevie WAS a rock star. Chris is STILL a musician.

I think Stevie could still pull in the crowds on a tour.

Christine on the other hand has no desire to do that

Gail

David 12-13-2007 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 734235)
I think Stevie could still pull in the crowds on a tour.

What can I say? Celine Dion still reels 'em in, too, with her big, bland, glitzy show. Stevie has lost it, as far as I'm concerned, whereas Christine is still sultry, sexy, beautiful, accomplished -- still the perfect pop-rock star, the quintessence of all that I hold dear. The actual mechanics of her ability are at apex: the playing & singing are unbeatable, the way she stands, the way she moves, the way she sounds, the way she feels ... incomparable. (In short, when Chris sings, you don't hear snot rattling around in her esophagus.)

God bless Queen Christine!! :thumbsup::blob2::wavey:

David 12-13-2007 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 734228)
I disagree. I think though "we" are tired of her set lists, etc.

I'm not tired of her set lists; I just don't enjoy listening to the snot move around in her upper gullet.

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I cannot tell you how many average fans I have spoken to at concerts that say she a rock star, etc.
Ah, so YOU'RE the guy who's chatting to everyone while we're trying to watch the show. :mad:

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I did not think "In the Meantime" was a good example of that.
Are you kidding?! You don't think "In the Meantime" is a good example of Christine's musicianship? One of us has ear wax problems, strand!

aleuzzi 12-13-2007 03:27 PM

In the Meantime is an excellent, underrated, undersold collection of songs.

Gailh 12-13-2007 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 734245)
In the Meantime is an excellent, underrated, undersold collection of songs.

Amen to that! :thumbsup:

Gail

michelej1 12-13-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 734242)
Are you kidding?! You don't think "In the Meantime" is a good example of Christine's musicianship? One of us has ear wax problems, strand!

Yeah, it's a good example of her musicianship on many songs. I'd love to see her play the end of Northern Star live, for example. Her voice superb and her phrasing and inflection conveyed every ounce of experience and emotion you could hope for.

Yet, while I enjoyed the album overall, there were a couple of tracks that took me on a very, ah, bad journey.

Michele

strandinthewind 12-13-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 734242)
. . . Ah, so YOU'RE the guy who's chatting to everyone while we're trying to watch the show. :mad:

Hey Now :mad:

;)

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Originally Posted by David (Post 734242)
Are you kidding?! You don't think "In the Meantime" is a good example of Christine's musicianship? One of us has ear wax problems, strand!

I just did not care for it. But, to each their own. I found the songs mostly the same sounding and IMO uninspired. Don't get me wrong, even not so great CM is still better than 99% of the crapola out there. Now, I found Temporary One very inspired, though IMO she reached her greatest on Tusk and Why is the best thing she ever wrote.

As for focusing on La Nicks' voice as the def. of a Rock Star, I submit there are other qualities she possesses. But, I agree, her voice is not that great these days, though she can choose to use it in a great way when the spirit moves her, which IMO is not often.

macfan 57 12-13-2007 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 734245)
In the Meantime is an excellent, underrated, undersold collection of songs.

I agree.:nod: And, her vocals were my favorites of hers ever. Her voice sounded so smooth & effortless. Amazing for her age! I've been playing ITM quite a bit lately.


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