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MacMan 06-15-2007 07:01 AM

Nicks, Isaak: Who's the soft-rock champ?
 
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Clearly, Stevie Nicks and Chris Isaak are at the very least on good terms. It's quite possible they're good buds. They definitely don't hate each other, since they're playing a show together tonight at the Tweeter Center in Camden, N.J.

Even still, we feel like it'd be amusing to pit the two soft-rock titans against each other in a Caribbean Barbed Wire Lumberjack Steel Cage Death Match, just to see who is the true champion of soft rock radio.

Plus, there's not much to write about this week, so here goes.

•Songwriting chops. Edge: Nicks, by a mile. After Stevie moved outside the Fleetwood Mac fold, everyone wondered what she could do without Lindsey Buckingham or Christine McVie there to help as a foil, co-songwriter or musical collaborator. The answer was "Stand Back," "Talk to Me," the classic "Leather and Lace" -- which is a killer cut despite the presence of Don Henley -- not to mention "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around," which she didn't write but made awesome by blending her scratchy vocals with Tom Petty's Florida-flavored faux-Dylan lead vocal. Isaak has, er, "Wicked Game."

•Vocal chops. Edge: Draw. If you go for pure pleasantness of voice, Isaak would be the clear winner. His Elvis-meets-Roy Orbison croon and sneer could make almost any tune a hit. But Nicks' now-weathered pipes still burst with personality, and like Jules Winnfield said in "Pulp Fiction," personality goes a long way.

•Previous band. Edge: Uh, Nicks. Isaak was in a rockabilly band called Silvertone in the mid-1980s.

•Versatility. Edge: Isaak. In addition to being a great singer and decent songwriter, the studly Isaak has appeared in several films, including a brief appearance as a cop who gets duped by Hannibal Lecter in "The Silence of the Lambs." Aside from her soap opera-esque moments in Fleetwood Mac footage, Nicks doesn't act.

•Onstage accessories. Edge: Isaak. He brings the sneer and the greaser-style hairdo, but Isaak isn't really a props kind of guy. Nicks loses here for those weird cape/curtain-type things she hangs from her arms to cover herself up. Why? You go girl.

Although it looks close on paper, Nicks slaughtered the California boy.

Nicks and Isaak will be at the center at 8. Tickets are $25, $45, $79.75 and $125 at www. ticketmaster.com.

MacMan 06-15-2007 07:38 AM

And this is just some random info... from Billboard Magazine:

Stevie Nicks, Chris Isaak
Red Rocks Amphitheatre Morrison, Colo.
May 28, 2007
Gross: $623,912
Attendance / Capacity: 8,938 / 9,450
Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0
$125, $43.50
Live Nation

danax6 06-15-2007 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacMan (Post 696837)
the classic "Leather and Lace" -- which is a killer cut despite the presence of Don Henley

Quote:

Isaak has, er, "Wicked Game."
Quote:

Aside from her soap opera-esque moments in Fleetwood Mac footage, Nicks doesn't act.
To whomever wrote this: Perfect. :laugh:

vermicious knid 06-15-2007 10:18 AM

Well, let's see.

Chris Isaak

Year__________Song________________________Adult Contemporary Peak
1993..................Can't Do a Thing to Stop Me..........................11
1995..................Somebody's Crying.......................................27
2004..................Santa Claus is Coming to Town......................25

Stevie

Year_________Song_________________________Adult Contemporary Peak
1976.................Rhiannon.....................................................33
1977.................Dreams.......................................................11
1981.................Leather and Lace..........................................10
1982.................After the Glitter Fades...................................36
1982.................Gypsy..........................................................9
1983.................Nightbird.....................................................39
1985.................Talk to Me...................................................14
1986.................Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You........31
1987.................Seven Wonders............................................13
1989.................Rooms on Fire..............................................16
1994.................Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind...................17
1998.................Landslide.....................................................10
2001.................Everyday.....................................................17
2001.................Sorceror......................................................17
2003.................Say You Will.................................................17


P.S. Did "Sara" really not make it on the Adult Contemporary chart? How could that be?

MacMan 06-15-2007 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vermicious knid (Post 696869)
Well, let's see.

Chris Isaak

Year__________Song________________________Adult Contemporary Peak
1993..................Can't Do a Thing to Stop Me..........................11
1995..................Somebody's Crying.......................................27
2004..................Santa Claus is Coming to Town......................25

Stevie

Year_________Song_________________________Adult Contemporary Peak
1976.................Rhiannon.....................................................33
1977.................Dreams.......................................................11
1981.................Leather and Lace..........................................10
1982.................After the Glitter Fades...................................36
1982.................Gypsy..........................................................9
1983.................Nightbird.....................................................39
1985.................Talk to Me...................................................14
1986.................Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You........31
1987.................Seven Wonders............................................13
1989.................Rooms on Fire..............................................16
1994.................Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind...................17
1998.................Landslide.....................................................10
2001.................Everyday.....................................................17
2001.................Sorceror......................................................17
2003.................Say You Will.................................................17


P.S. Did "Sara" really not make it on the Adult Contemporary chart? How could that be?


- Sara reached #13. Debut was 12/22/79 - was on the AC charts for 12 weeks.
- Paper Doll reached #32. Debut was 12/19/92 - 7 weeks on AC chart.
- Silver Springs reached #5. Debut was 8/16/97 - 26 weeks on.

vermicious knid 06-15-2007 11:53 AM

Thank you for that. What resource did you use?

MacMan 06-15-2007 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vermicious knid (Post 696882)
Thank you for that. What resource did you use?

Billboard Mag. A few years ago - I bought from their site this "Chart Stars" thing - which they emailed to me. It's a Joel Whitburn listing showing all Fleetwood Mac singles and albums and the charts they charted on in Billboard.

SpyNote 06-15-2007 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vermicious knid (Post 696882)
Thank you for that. What resource did you use?

The chart peaks are also listed on Billboard's website if you search under Stevie's or Fleetwood Mac's name. It shows their bios, discography, and chart peaks (some are listed incorrectly, however). You can also buy Stevie and Fleetwood Mac chart placements in book format (!) from Billboard's publishers. These reference books aren't cheap tho. They're essential if you thrive on statistical information.

Musicman408 06-15-2007 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacMan (Post 696837)
Delawareonline

Clearly, Stevie Nicks and Chris Isaak are at the very least on good terms. It's quite possible they're good buds. They definitely don't hate each other, since they're playing a show together tonight at the Tweeter Center in Camden, N.J.

Even still, we feel like it'd be amusing to pit the two soft-rock titans against each other in a Caribbean Barbed Wire Lumberjack Steel Cage Death Match, just to see who is the true champion of soft rock radio.

Plus, there's not much to write about this week, so here goes.

•Songwriting chops. Edge: Nicks, by a mile. After Stevie moved outside the Fleetwood Mac fold, everyone wondered what she could do without Lindsey Buckingham or Christine McVie there to help as a foil, co-songwriter or musical collaborator. The answer was "Stand Back," "Talk to Me," the classic "Leather and Lace" -- which is a killer cut despite the presence of Don Henley -- not to mention "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around," which she didn't write but made awesome by blending her scratchy vocals with Tom Petty's Florida-flavored faux-Dylan lead vocal. Isaak has, er, "Wicked Game."

•Vocal chops. Edge: Draw. If you go for pure pleasantness of voice, Isaak would be the clear winner. His Elvis-meets-Roy Orbison croon and sneer could make almost any tune a hit. But Nicks' now-weathered pipes still burst with personality, and like Jules Winnfield said in "Pulp Fiction," personality goes a long way.

•Previous band. Edge: Uh, Nicks. Isaak was in a rockabilly band called Silvertone in the mid-1980s.

•Versatility. Edge: Isaak. In addition to being a great singer and decent songwriter, the studly Isaak has appeared in several films, including a brief appearance as a cop who gets duped by Hannibal Lecter in "The Silence of the Lambs." Aside from her soap opera-esque moments in Fleetwood Mac footage, Nicks doesn't act.

•Onstage accessories. Edge: Isaak. He brings the sneer and the greaser-style hairdo, but Isaak isn't really a props kind of guy. Nicks loses here for those weird cape/curtain-type things she hangs from her arms to cover herself up. Why? You go girl.

Although it looks close on paper, Nicks slaughtered the California boy.

Nicks and Isaak will be at the center at 8. Tickets are $25, $45, $79.75 and $125 at www. ticketmaster.com.

That was an interesting comparison battle. Thanks for posting. :nod:


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