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foxyluva 06-04-2006 10:48 PM

I finally get that "stiletto in their garter " line!!
 
This line in "Alice" has always bugged the crap out of me - and Im sure you all know, but I just found out that it means a small dagger - and here I was thinking Stevie was carrying a high heel shoe strapped to her thigh :laugh: :laugh:

paperflowers 06-04-2006 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxyluva
This line in "Alice" has always bugged the crap out of me - and Im sure you all know, but I just found out that it means a small dagger - and here I was thinking Stevie was carrying a high heel shoe strapped to her thigh :laugh: :laugh:


Stiletto cuts quick....that line in "fireflies" is a better visual if it is a the high heel version.....

David 06-04-2006 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva
This line in "Alice" has always bugged the crap out of me - and Im sure you all know, but I just found out that it means a small dagger - and here I was thinking Stevie was carrying a high heel shoe strapped to her thigh :laugh: :laugh:

I thought she said "gelato"...."some carry some gelato in their garter/along with everything else/that they carry"

mmmm.....
http://www.winecountrycabins.com/cowlickfarm/gelato.jpg

deribish 06-04-2006 11:49 PM

when the song first came out on the flip side of Rooms on Fire (before I had the lyric sheet in front of me) -- I thought she was singing:
"some carry a stiletto in their car door, along with with everything else..." It made sense... just a little too practical sounding for stevie.

nightbird89 06-05-2006 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by David
I thought she said "gelato"...."some carry some gelato in their garter/along with everything else/that they carry"

mmmm.....
http://www.winecountrycabins.com/cowlickfarm/gelato.jpg

mmmmmm :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The Tower 06-05-2006 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by David
I thought she said "gelato"...."some carry some gelato in their garter/along with everything else/that they carry"

I'm starting to wonder why someone of your intellect is at the point of boring me to disgust.... (though I have an idea that I'm on your Ignore List, so you couldn't possibly have any idea that I exist- blah, blah, blah...)

In any event...

"Alice" is one of Stevie's greates allegories. The pinnacle of which is the line-

"Each had their own charm...
Buried beneath a solid piece of armour...or a steel plated vest
Some carry a stiletto in their garter along with everything else --
that they carry...Oh, call my name..."


Which means IMO <--- which I had to list, otherwise be branded a Stevie hater/heretic/blaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Sorry- got lost in it.

This line means:

All of the people around me, especially the ones in my band- had their own ability to entice and otherwise express their unique charisma to others within the rock world.

However- most had already been scarred by infidelity, encounters with boozers, druggies and the like to be able to allow themselves to show their true nature- in addition(!)-

If you f u c k with me, I still possess a physical weapon with which to hurt you and or stop you from ****ing with me- just in case.

However, if you would please- I'm am sitting here downtrodden and if you would ask for me- I would run to you at an instant.


One of the greatest aspects of Stevie is that she never cowered from anyone and she was completely unfraid of telling it like it is.

desertangel 06-05-2006 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
If you f u c k with me, I still possess a physical weapon with which to hurt you and or stop you from ****ing with me- just in case.

One of the greatest aspects of Stevie is that she never cowered from anyone and she was completely unfraid of telling it like it is.

...... and she "don't like to lose" !!! :D

Great lyric interpretation.


Laura

Sahara 06-05-2006 07:14 AM

.... A dagger?

Well .... that makes a hell of a lot more sense. :o

strandinthewind 06-05-2006 09:11 AM

Towela - I agree.

I also think these words are La Nicks at her visual best. The image those lines provoke are stunning and intriguing to me. I sort of see her in a Riverboat dancehall at a card table when a fight breaks out and so forth and so and comes the stilleto.

Oona 06-05-2006 02:52 PM

yah...a stiletto is a very slim, straight-bladed double-edged dagger. they look like a small version of the "Arkansas Toothpick". It was a traditional tool for assassins, bit also was frequently carried by women for self defense. After the advent of switchblades and such, it also could mean a spring-loaded blade that telescopes straight out of the handle. some even were spring loaded to retract back in. some had sufficiant spring strength as to pierce into a person for its full blade length and stealthily retract back.
On this odd note, I came upon a very nasty, but graceful sabre pointed balisong knife made by Parker Cutlery with the title "gypsy" on the blade along with a feather pattern by the logo.

foxyluva 06-05-2006 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sahara
.... A dagger?

Well .... that makes a hell of a lot more sense. :o

lol, so you thought it was a shoe as well then :laugh:

JazmenFlowers 06-05-2006 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sahara
.... A dagger?

Well .... that makes a hell of a lot more sense. :o

don't feel bad. you weren't alone.

AliceLover 06-05-2006 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tower
I'm starting to wonder why someone of your intellect is at the point of boring me to disgust.... (though I have an idea that I'm on your Ignore List, so you couldn't possibly have any idea that I exist- blah, blah, blah...)

In any event...

"Alice" is one of Stevie's greates allegories. The pinnacle of which is the line-

"Each had their own charm...
Buried beneath a solid piece of armour...or a steel plated vest
Some carry a stiletto in their garter along with everything else --
that they carry...Oh, call my name..."


Which means IMO <--- which I had to list, otherwise be branded a Stevie hater/heretic/blaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Sorry- got lost in it.

This line means:

All of the people around me, especially the ones in my band- had their own ability to entice and otherwise express their unique charisma to others within the rock world.

However- most had already been scarred by infidelity, encounters with boozers, druggies and the like to be able to allow themselves to show their true nature- in addition(!)-

If you f u c k with me, I still possess a physical weapon with which to hurt you and or stop you from ****ing with me- just in case.

However, if you would please- I'm am sitting here downtrodden and if you would ask for me- I would run to you at an instant.


One of the greatest aspects of Stevie is that she never cowered from anyone and she was completely unfraid of telling it like it is.

My favorite line in Alice (for the lyrcial aspects) is "Like Alice through the Looking Glass, she used to know who she was". I like this the best because it totally fits with her. In Through the Looking Glass, Alice went to the OSOTM and she forgot who she was as her journey got longer and longer. This relates to Stevie because as she used drugs throughout the years, she totally lost who she was AKA RAL. I just think thats a great comparison to herself. Definitely great writing IMO.

foxyluva 06-05-2006 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceLover
My favorite line in Alice (for the lyrcial aspects) is "Like Alice through the Looking Glass, she used to know who she was". I like this the best because it totally fits with her. In Through the Looking Glass, Alice went to the OSOTM and she forgot who she was as her journey got longer and longer. This relates to Stevie because as she used drugs throughout the years, she totally lost who she was AKA RAL. I just think thats a great comparison to herself. Definitely great writing IMO.

Totally off topic - but I just sent you a PM over @ sevenwonders by the way :wavey:

Sahara 06-05-2006 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
don't feel bad. you weren't alone.

Good stuff.

And yet another amazing sig pic. These are incredible, mate. :wavey:


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