Lindsey's Guitar?
 

What is Lindsey's main guitar that he uses on stage? The electro-acoustic (i think?) one that he uses for things like "I'm So Afraid" and GYOW etc.? I love the tone he gets out of it and would consider getting it if it was not too expensive and available to purchase without having to import... which is unlikely :laugh:

Hi the guitar your talking about is called a Rick Turner Model 1-C-LB. Its an electric guitar not an electro acoustic as many think.
the guitar will cost you around $5000 new new, and you would be very lucky to get one on Ebay these days. Production is slow and it can take up to 18 months to get one.
There are at least there of us on this website who own such a guitar.
We all agree it really is a fantastic guitar.
What part of Northern Ireland are you from, Im from Newry. But had my Guitar in Matchetts in Belfast on Thursday


happy hunting

Hi Paul, it's really cool that you have a Model 1 and when I have the money I will definatly look into buying one. Apart from looking and sounding amazing what else are they like? I mean are they quite heavy? (I'd imagine they would be) fast fret? Just want to get an idea of what they're like.

I Live in Wigan, Manchester-ish (well 20 mins) UK but my heritage is Ireland (My grandparents where all Irish) and it's trully a beautiful country, your lucky to live there. Galway is my favourite place.

I'm lovnig how the Lindsey forum is getting so popular these days.

I'm from Islandmagee near Larne. So they're good guitars then? I have a Tony Iommi signature Epiphone and it is excellent, but I'm looking for something with a different tone and since Lindsey is my 2nd fave guitarist (after Tony... and he's fast approaching first to be honest) I though I'd try something he uses, or atleast with a similar tone.
Thanks for the reply.

Ive been in manchester a few times now. Last year to see oasis and also once on a stag party. It a great spot for enterainment. One of my best mates is living in galway these days in Salthill if u know it. me and my mates go down for a party regulatly, and ur right its a hell of a spot. Ive some stories from galway. Though Im gettin marride now in August 18th so lads weekends are quickly becoming a thing of the past.

I suppose the M1 is a heavy enough old guitar but with all those electronics what can you expect. Im cretainly not complaining. Although it seem heavier after playing the Turner RS6 whish is as light as a feather.
The neck is slightly more bulky than you would first expect and again you get used to it right away.

Ian Morton is the UK distributor and you'll never meet a more dead on guy. If you are ever looking one hes your man.

last I talked to Rick Turner about it, he's more than willing to "customize" the models to fit your style. Isn't it cheaper just to go right thru Rick? I remember him asking me what size my hands were "roughly" so he could make the neck slimmer/thicker, etc.

It is if you live in North America. If you live in the UK its not. You have VAT tax at 17.5%, Customs Duty and Import Tax. If you buy directly it's gonna cost you about $1200 more in taxes. If you go through a distributor such as Ian in the UK you will get the guitar at US prices.

Ian will import a Model 1C-LB for about £2600 which is pretty good. The only problem you get outside of America is its much harder to get any warranty work done. But you get that with any custom made instrument.

Cool. What day where you watching Oasis? I was there on the 3rd of July at the City stadium (amazing gig) Funnily enough I also went over to Ireland to watch them in december at the odyesy is Belfast (GREAT venue).

Yeah Salthill is where my gran comes from. Just outside the city going towards Furbo way. Great place.


The neck on the M1 looks very 'Strat Like' I think.

Eventually when I have the money I will try and get an M1 (so £2,600 should be enough?) but before that I would REALLY love to get an RN6.

A Model 1 neck is nothing like a Stratocaster neck.

I've owned a few Strats of various types over the years. Now I've just got my faithful 1962 original but none of them come close to the profile of the Model 1 for many reasons.

1) A Model 1 neck is MUCH thicker and chunkier, more like a '58 Les Paul I would say. It's also got graphite rods down its length so this makes the neck heavier too. Add to that its a bond of five wood laminates (maple/purple heart/maple/purple heart/maple) and this makes it much heavier too.

2) A model 1 neck is finished in high gloss polyester unlike strats which tend to be satin finished or on "vintage" style strats and older originals, polished nitrocellulose.

3) Not quite sure what the nut width is on a Model 1 but it is significantly wider than a Strat which means the neck is wider and the fingerboard is wider and as a result the string spacing is wider.

4) The scale on a Model 1 is 24.75" and on a Strat it is 25.5". What this means basically is that because of the difference in length and as a result string tension at pitch the Model 1 is easier to bend strings on than a Strat. You will find if you put a set of .010 gauge strings on a Model 1 it will feel like a set of .009 strings on a Strat.

Add it all up and they feel worlds apart. If you want to get a Model 1 I would go to a store and try and check out a Les Paul first. Ask to play one with a "50's" neck profile not a "60's" one and you will get an idea. Some players can't use a thicker neck, some prefer it. I own five electrics and they are all somewhere between the two ends. Some days I prefer more meat on the neck so I'll use the Turner or the Gretsch Jet, other days I'll want something fast and slick and it'll be the Strat or the Suhr. One thing is certain, don't blow £2000 or more without getting a feel for the neck size first.

You can get a Model 1 for far less than £2600. It just depends if you want all the time consuming and decorative stuff (Binding, headstock overlays etc) like the 1C-LB or 1C-P versions. This is what you pay the extra for. You can get a Model 1 Junior for £1500 or £1850 with Lindsey's full blown electronics. When you consider it will be £1200-£1400 for an RS-6 then the difference is not much.

Model 1 guitars vary in weight quite a bit. Most Model 1's weigh in less than an American Strat, some more than a Les Paul, depends on the density of the mahogany and if you want chambers in the body to lighten it. It's a neck heavy guitar so you find it pulls down quite a bit, the electronics are nothing more than a couple of PCBs and don't add weight at all.

Hope that helps. :wavey:

*p.s. I forgot to add the most obvious difference in that the Model 1 has 24 frets and is a double octave guitar as opposed to the 22 frets on a modern Strat. As well as the sound being a little different between the two the fingerboard space between the frets is smaller than on a 22 fret guitar because the extra two frets go within the existing scale so you may find you have less fingerboard space which might hinder your lead work if you are not used to it. Plus the body joins at the 17th fret on the lower side unlike right up at the 21st fret like a strat so unless you build up the finger power its tough to pull large string bends up there at the high end (watch Lindsey near the end of I'm So Afraid on The Dance). Very much like trying to play a solo up the dusty end of a classical guitar. Not easy.