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jannieC 01-05-2006 01:49 PM

Pissed off Smile At You
 
Someone just sent me a CD filled with Stevie demos and bootlegs. So, this is the first time I've ever heard the angry Smile At You. I think it is so much better than what was released, and not just because of the vocals, but the hard edge musically. I wonder why they changed it? It's very challenging (vocally) but it's not like Stevie was ever going to sing it live. :rolleyes: Flaming, flaming, FLAAAMING! Anyway, just my two cents.

DavidMn 01-05-2006 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jannieC
Someone just sent me a CD filled with Stevie demos and bootlegs. So, this is the first time I've ever heard the angry Smile At You. I think it is so much better than what was released, and not just because of the vocals, but the hard edge musically. I wonder why they changed it? It's very challenging (vocally) but it's not like Stevie was ever going to sing it live. :rolleyes: Flaming, flaming, FLAAAMING! Anyway, just my two cents.

Well, sor one thing I believe it was recorded quite awhile ago when her voice was more able to handle that kind of singing. Just my opinion.:)

JeannieKartis 01-05-2006 01:59 PM

The angry version IS so much better...you can just hear how pissed she was....

SapphireSister 01-05-2006 02:01 PM

Perhaps she's not as "angry" anymore :wavey:.

JeannieKartis 01-05-2006 02:02 PM

yes and she has said that she's not....

The Tower 01-05-2006 02:24 PM

Also, the song is so musically simple- I don't think the whooping it up angry-screaming-shouting would really fly with Lindsey and his production ideas. I like the SYW version of this, but I think it would have been better served by a different producer and as a solo song.

dissention 01-05-2006 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
I like the SYW version of this, but I think it would have been better served...as a solo song.

Ew. I convulse violently at the very thought.

Knowing that Stevie Nicks is never going to scream & shout with fierce intensity ever again, I was perfectly content with the SYW version. Some of the production was over the top, the grammatical error chaps my ass, but it's one helluva vocal performance, even if she's audibly straining the hell out of her voice to give it. The way the song winds down is particularly good, too.

johndoe 01-05-2006 02:30 PM

I've heard about this version before, but never actually heard it. Could someone please upload it?

JazmenFlowers 01-05-2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Ew. I convulse violently at the very thought.

Knowing that Stevie Nicks is never going to scream & shout with fierce intensity ever again, I was perfectly content with the SYW version. Some of the production was over the top, the grammatical error chaps my ass, but it's one helluva vocal performance, even if she's audibly straining the hell out of her voice to give it. The way the song winds down is particularly good, too.

I never thought about it this way, but I agree.

JazmenFlowers 01-05-2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by johndoe
I've heard about this version before, but never actually heard it. Could someone please upload it?

if no one has by the time I get home from work, I'll upload it for you.

The Tower 01-05-2006 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Knowing that Stevie Nicks is never going to scream & shout with fierce intensity ever again,

I hate resigning myself to this fact. I pisses me off to no end.

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I was perfectly content with the SYW version.
I am, too.

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Some of the production was over the top, the grammatical error chaps my ass,
Yes, it's like a poke in the eye every time.

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but it's one helluva vocal performance, even if she's audibly straining the hell out of her voice to give it.
I don't think she's straining. I think it's pretty good. Now, "Silver Springs" on the SYW tour?? That's straining. And painful.....

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The way the song winds down is particularly good, too.
That's my favorite part. Very "sunset" sounding and quite beautiful.

However, I think Lindsey could have done a better job producing her vocals. For some reason, he left her voice completely stripped down on all the tracks and then used that stupid mega phone effect far too often.

johndoe 01-05-2006 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
if no one has by the time I get home from work, I'll upload it for you.

Thank you!

Sahara 01-05-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by johndoe
I've heard about this version before, but never actually heard it. Could someone please upload it?

I second that. :D

What's the grammatical error, by the way? And aren't we used to these by now ...? :laugh:

But seriously, I love this song. It's one of the first couple of her tracks I really got into. The album version isn't as angry as the demo I've heard [just one] but it's still quietly vicious and vindictive. I love Stevie songs like that ... :cool:

cliffdweller 01-05-2006 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
I don't think she's straining. I think it's pretty good. Now, "Silver Springs" on the SYW tour?? That's straining. And painful.....

:nod: I'd have to agree on that one.

strandinthewind 01-05-2006 03:58 PM

I think SAY on SYW was a scorcher of a vocal and one we had not seen on a record from her in years, maybe RAL :shrug:

In fact, I think she had more than one of those on SYW, "Running Through the Garden" being another good example. A recent live scorcher of a vocal was R&R - as was B&B, albeit in a different way. So, she clearly still does it. I think at almost 60, it is just harder for her to sustain that level night after night in all songs; she is a human being after all. But, the rarer glimpses of it these days is a sight to behold.

As for SS on The Dance, I give the ole broad an A+ for having the sand to go there in the first place and then reprising that vocal intensity with "Sleeping Angel" on the Enchanted tour, which at times was an out of body experience for me.

So, it is toned down these days, but it still appears and dazzels.

Also, I think whoever cut the extra lyrics from SAY and other songs (presumably there) was an idiot as the songs just repeat and that gets on my nerves a la the ridiculous repeating of the SYW chorus ad nauseam.


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