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strandinthewind 09-19-2005 12:29 PM

Voter Reform
 
Election Reformers Hand Report to Bush

Monday, September 19, 2005



WASHINGTON —

Former President Jimmy Carter (search) and former Secretary of State James A. Baker III (search) presented President Bush 87 recommendations on election reform Monday, including a free, nationalized voter identification program and paper verification of electronically cast votes.

"We think this report hopefully will go a long ways toward ending the sterile debate that we have in our politics about ballot integrity versus ballot access because many of the recommendations in this report move in both of those directions," Baker said shortly after the meeting.


To read the report, click here.


Carter said they next would present the recommendations to some of the key members of Congress. Carter and Baker are the co-chairs of the Commission on Federal Election Reform (search), which began its work in March and released its nine-section final report Monday.

Carter said the most controversial recommendation was likely the national identification program. Under the commission's recommendation, the identification would be free to keep from discriminating against the poor, and would be phased in through 2010.

Carter said one effect of the recommendation would be to correct the "horrible, discriminatory" law passed in his home state of Georgia. He said state law there charges $20 and $35 for 5- and 10-year voter registration cards, which "deliberately deprives, poor people, old people and others of the right to vote."

The recommendation would also make the identification process fair across all states, Carter said.

Baker and Carter said another recommendation would ask states to share voter registration lists to prevent double registration and other problems.

Another recommendation is to shift to a regional primary system of four presidential primaries, although they did not recommend ending the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary -- historically the first two barometers of political popularity for the party's presidential hopefuls. After the Iowa and New Hampshire contests, the plan calls for four primaries at one-month intervals. The order in which regions voted would rotate every four years.

"We believe it's the best approach," Carter said.

After the legally challenged election of George W. Bush in 2000, voter worries spiked and in 2002 Congress passed the Help America Vote Act, which allocated money to update voting systems and improve voter registration practices.

But there were more complaints last year after President Bush's reelection, especially in the battleground of Ohio. There were questions over voting machine access, electric vote total accuracy, and even where the voters were supposed to cast their ballots.

Among the commission's recommendations are:

— Congress should pass a law to require voter-verifiable paper audit trails on all electronic voting machines.

—The presidential primary system should be reorganized into four regional primaries, held after the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary. A regional primary would take place each month from March to June.

— All "legitimate domestic and international election observers" should be granted unrestricted access to the election process, within the rules of the election.

— News organizations should voluntarily refrain from projecting any presidential election results in any state until all polls have closed in 48 states, with Alaska and Hawaii excluded.

— States should prohibit senior election officials from serving or assisting others' political campaigns in a partisan way.

— States should establish uniform procedures for the counting of provisional ballots, which voters can use when there are questions about their registration.

Organizing the commission's work is the American University Center for Democracy and Election Management, in association with the James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy at Rice University, the Carter Center and Electionline.org.

FOX News' Greg Simmons and the Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,169762,00.html

DavidMn 09-19-2005 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Election Reformers Hand Report to Bush

Monday, September 19, 2005



WASHINGTON —

Former President Jimmy Carter (search) and former Secretary of State James A. Baker III (search) presented President Bush 87 recommendations on election reform Monday, including a free, nationalized voter identification program and paper verification of electronically cast votes.

"We think this report hopefully will go a long ways toward ending the sterile debate that we have in our politics about ballot integrity versus ballot access because many of the recommendations in this report move in both of those directions," Baker said shortly after the meeting.


To read the report, click here.


Carter said they next would present the recommendations to some of the key members of Congress. Carter and Baker are the co-chairs of the Commission on Federal Election Reform (search), which began its work in March and released its nine-section final report Monday.

Carter said the most controversial recommendation was likely the national identification program. Under the commission's recommendation, the identification would be free to keep from discriminating against the poor, and would be phased in through 2010.

Carter said one effect of the recommendation would be to correct the "horrible, discriminatory" law passed in his home state of Georgia. He said state law there charges $20 and $35 for 5- and 10-year voter registration cards, which "deliberately deprives, poor people, old people and others of the right to vote."

The recommendation would also make the identification process fair across all states, Carter said.

Baker and Carter said another recommendation would ask states to share voter registration lists to prevent double registration and other problems.

Another recommendation is to shift to a regional primary system of four presidential primaries, although they did not recommend ending the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary -- historically the first two barometers of political popularity for the party's presidential hopefuls. After the Iowa and New Hampshire contests, the plan calls for four primaries at one-month intervals. The order in which regions voted would rotate every four years.

"We believe it's the best approach," Carter said.

After the legally challenged election of George W. Bush in 2000, voter worries spiked and in 2002 Congress passed the Help America Vote Act, which allocated money to update voting systems and improve voter registration practices.

But there were more complaints last year after President Bush's reelection, especially in the battleground of Ohio. There were questions over voting machine access, electric vote total accuracy, and even where the voters were supposed to cast their ballots.

Among the commission's recommendations are:

— Congress should pass a law to require voter-verifiable paper audit trails on all electronic voting machines.

—The presidential primary system should be reorganized into four regional primaries, held after the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary. A regional primary would take place each month from March to June.

— All "legitimate domestic and international election observers" should be granted unrestricted access to the election process, within the rules of the election.

— News organizations should voluntarily refrain from projecting any presidential election results in any state until all polls have closed in 48 states, with Alaska and Hawaii excluded.

— States should prohibit senior election officials from serving or assisting others' political campaigns in a partisan way.

— States should establish uniform procedures for the counting of provisional ballots, which voters can use when there are questions about their registration.

Organizing the commission's work is the American University Center for Democracy and Election Management, in association with the James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy at Rice University, the Carter Center and Electionline.org.

FOX News' Greg Simmons and the Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,169762,00.html

What the hell is with charging people to vote. I hope I read that wrong, but that actally is happening, its total BS!! :mad:

Brwn_eyes0511 09-19-2005 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
What the hell is with charging people to vote. I hope I read that wrong, but that actally is happening, its total BS!! :mad:


Am I the only one who actually sat in history class, and once we got to the part about poll tax, was like "can we bring this back now?"

SuzeQuze 09-19-2005 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511
Am I the only one who actually sat in history class, and once we got to the part about poll tax, was like "can we bring this back now?"

And you guys call liberals "elitist". :rolleyes:

I have to admit, I'm shocked that in GA people have to pay! Isn't that illegal? Its easy to register here and you don't have to pay. But then, we are blue.

DavidMn 09-19-2005 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
And you guys call liberals "elitist". :rolleyes:

I have to admit, I'm shocked that in GA people have to pay! Isn't that illegal? Its easy to register here and you don't have to pay. But then, we are blue.

Well, do you remember the alleged roadblock that went up in Hillborough county in Florida on election day in 2000. Funny, but Hillsbourough is mostly black. Sounds fishy to me, but what do I know?

GypsySorcerer 09-19-2005 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
Its easy to register here and you don't have to pay. But then, we are blue.

Do you have to rub it in? :laugh:

SuzeQuze 09-19-2005 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
Well, do you remember the alleged roadblock that went up in Hillborough county in Florida on election day in 2000. Funny, but Hillsbourough is mostly black. Sounds fishy to me, but what do I know?

Tons of "funny" stuff went on. Like black neighborhoods in Ohio having folks wait in line for 8+ hours to vote. Granted that was the worst case, but no one in the white neighborhoods had to wait like that. There were many precincts that had 4 and 5 hour lines. Plus there were the ones that had no paper trail and strangely favored Bush, in every single case. Etc. etc. I think this is all up on blackboxvoting.org. Its an outrage that this happened in our country.

SuzeQuze 09-19-2005 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer
Do you have to rub it in? :laugh:

Oh woops, sorry! :xoxo: Keep fighting the good fight.

DavidMn 09-19-2005 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
And you guys call liberals "elitist". :rolleyes:

I have to admit, I'm shocked that in GA people have to pay! Isn't that illegal? Its easy to register here and you don't have to pay. But then, we are blue.

I like the then we are blue part. :lol: My grandmother used to tell me about this saying back in the 50's, "BETTER DEAD THAN RED." Then they were talking about Communists. Funny how things change huh?

SuzeQuze 09-19-2005 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
I like the then we are blue part. :lol: My grandmother used to tell me about this saying back in the 50's, "BETTER DEAD THAN RED." Then they were talking about Communists. Funny how things change huh?

That's wild, I forgot that was what red referred to then.

David 09-19-2005 02:46 PM

If I read that, strand, I'd get an ulcer in my cerebellum. Could you summarize it with pith?

strandinthewind 09-19-2005 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by David
If I read that, strand, I'd get an ulcer in my cerebellum. Could you summarize it with pith?

National ID's and paper trails - to cover the rumbling in the entrails :wavey:


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