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Mad4stevie 07-26-2005 05:23 PM

At What Point Do People Consider Doing This?
 
http://www.courttv.com/news/2005/072...ality_ctv.html

Wash. lawmakers to weigh bestiality ban after man dies from sex with horse

A Seattle man died on July 2 from internal bleeding after having sex with a horse.

By Mallory Simon
Court TV
State Sen. Pam Roach wants Washington residents to stop horsing around with their stallions — and other domesticated animals.

Roach, outraged by a Seattle man's death after having sex with a horse, said she is proposing a law that would make having sex with an animal punishable by up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

"This is a crime against innocent life, and you know that the animal is not seeking this," Roach said. "This is something a human being has decided to commit against another innocent being."

Roach is planning to introduce the bill at the state's next legislative session in December.

The proposed legislation stems from an investigation into an Enumclaw, Wash., farm, where a 45-year-old man died on July 2 from internal bleeding due to a perforated colon resulting from having sex with a horse.

When the story was published, Roach said dozens of residents sent e-mails calling for legislation to ban bestiality.

"While the horse won out in this instance, there are cases where smaller animals are used for these particular acts and its extremely painful for them," Roach said. "The whole realm of bestiality is cruel to the animal because it is unnatural."

Enumclaw police commander Eric Sortland said the man, whose name was not released, was dropped off at a local hospital by an unknown person. The man died before doctors were able to treat him, Sortland said.

Detectives linked the victim to a Kings County farm. They performed a search and questioned a group of workers there. Sortland said police uncovered videotapes of several people, including the man who died, engaging in sexual acts with animals.

"It's quite astonishing that people would participate in this behavior and do so consistently," Sortland said. "That they would subject animals and livestock to this type of cruelty is flat-out disturbing."

Police also discovered Internet chat rooms and Web sites that posted free clips and advertised the Enumclaw farm as a place for people to engage in bestiality.

Despite the tapes, the Web sites, and a man's death, Sortland said no charges have been filed against the farm because bestiality is not a crime in Washington.

If Roach's legislation passes, Washington would become the 31st state banning sexual activity with animals and the seventh to classify bestiality as a felony.

After the videotapes surfaced, Roach said she felt it was important to also make it illegal to videotape, sell or have intent to sell videos of the 'abhorrent' sexual acts.

"Reproducing this stuff seems to be at the same level as partaking in the act, so I think that should be a class C felony too," she said.

Martin Mersereau, manager of the Domestic Animal Abuse Department at People for
the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), praised Roach's efforts to punish those who engage in bestiality and animal abuse.

"It's cruel. That's my stance and that's PETA's stance," Mersereau said. "I'll change my tune when Mr. Ed tells me he likes being raped in his stall by some pervert on a stepstool."

Nationwide problem

Although bestiality crimes often go undetected, recent cases have cropped up from coast to coast.

Moreover, these incidents have forced prosecutors in several states to find applicable laws to address allegations of animal sexual abuse.

Last week, prosecutors in Tallahassee, Fla., dropped animal cruelty charges against a blind man who was accused of having sex with his guide dog. Florida, like Washington, doesn't have a bestiality statute.

Prosecutors were forced to charge the man with disorderly conduct, alleging he was disturbing the peace by engaging in sexual activity with his dog.

In St. Charles, Ill., 37-year-old Noel Huecias was sentenced to 60 days in jail and 12 months of probation for two incidents involving sexual interaction with a dog.

Ledy Van Kavage, a senior director at The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals said growing instances of abuse show an immediate need for laws in states lacking them.

She said although most legislators are appalled by news of these acts, getting someone to sponsor a bill can be difficult.

"Legislators didn't want to be laughed at on the Senate floor. But it's not a laughing matter. Animals do die from this deviant behavior," Van Kavage said. "I show them news headlines and ask, 'Is this what you want your state to be known for?'"

Mersereau said he hopes cases like the one in Enumclaw will force Washington and other states to take a closer look at their legal stance on bestiality.

"Animals have no real say in this matter and they most likely are trusting of their human guardians," Mersereau said. "Every day without a law like this means more animals will suffer."



At what point do people get so sex deprived that they consider something like this? This is just SICK, SICK, SICK!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:

AliceLover 07-26-2005 05:26 PM

Absolutley Disgusting!

DrummerDeanna 07-26-2005 05:27 PM

Oh. My. God.

That may well be one of the most disturbing articles I've read in a long time.

I just don't have words. THat is just sick.

xxxmx 07-26-2005 05:28 PM

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"While the horse won out in this instance, there are cases where smaller animals are used for these particular acts and its extremely painful for them..."
:laugh: the horse 'won' :laugh:

SapphireSister 07-26-2005 05:31 PM

That is some sick and twisted sh*t but I know it happens. The poor animals OMG! I could cry at the thought of the poor innocent animals having to endure this torture. I'm sorry to say this but in this instance I'd rather the man have died than the horse...

GardenStateGirlie 07-26-2005 05:33 PM

:shocked: :eek: Buy a doll -- or a hooker. Good lord...that is absolutely disgusting. How is that NOT illegal??

Mad4stevie 07-26-2005 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxmx
:laugh: the horse 'won' :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh:


Last week, prosecutors in Tallahassee, Fla., dropped animal cruelty charges against a blind man who was accused of having sex with his guide dog. Florida, like Washington, doesn't have a bestiality statute.

Prosecutors were forced to charge the man with disorderly conduct, alleging he was disturbing the peace by engaging in sexual activity with his dog.


Um, this is REALLY distressing too! :shocked:

xxxmx 07-26-2005 05:48 PM

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Last week, prosecutors in Tallahassee, Fla., dropped animal cruelty charges against a blind man who was accused of having sex with his guide dog.
anyone here listen to LoveLine? they have a game they play called 'Germany or Florida" where someone calls in with a ridiculous news story and adam and drew guess if it happened in either germany or florida. some of the stories are really disturbing/funny and it's just great that all of these bizarro things happen in either G or F. not so funny because i live in florida and get to deal with these weirdos...

amber 07-26-2005 05:51 PM

@#%#&%#$&$#%$#&%$#%$#%#&%$#&%$#&%$#&%$#&&%^&*^%*(%&$#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 :mad: :mad: :mad:
What the hell is wrong with men/people? It's outrageous. There truly is no bounds to human depravity.

dissention 07-26-2005 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxmx
anyone here listen to LoveLine? they have a game they play called 'Germany or Florida" where someone calls in with a ridiculous news story and adam and drew guess if it happened in either germany or florida. some of the stories are really disturbing/funny and it's just great that all of these bizarro things happen in either G or F. not so funny because i live in florida and get to deal with these weirdos...

I have a sick crush on Dr. Drew, of course I listen to it, silly. :p I love that show.

estranged4life 07-26-2005 05:52 PM

I remember reading...
 
about the horse & this guy last week...I wonder if Mr.Ed enjoyed it? "Ohhh Willburrrr"

"A horse is a horse of course of course"...

Lee 07-26-2005 05:52 PM

After what I just read in my local paper, nothing surprises me. Some people are real SICKOS. :mad:

Lee :mad:

StevieNicksEO17 07-26-2005 05:55 PM

What the hell? That's discusting.

xxxmx 07-26-2005 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I have a sick crush on Dr. Drew, of course I listen to it, silly. :p I love that show.

dr. drew is somewhere on my Top5 list of hot,grey-haired, nailable guys. and his voice... i think the show airs on a one-day delay down here and that kind of sucks. did you ever listen to LovePhone? dr. judy and jagger... it was a while ago. anyways, i fall asleep with LoveLine on every night. much love to dr. drew... ps did you know he has triplets? something to be said for that ;)

dissention 07-26-2005 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxmx
dr. drew is somewhere on my Top5 list of hot,grey-haired, nailable guys. and his voice... i think the show airs on a one-day delay down here and that kind of sucks. did you ever listen to LovePhone? dr. judy and jagger... it was a while ago. anyways, i fall asleep with LoveLine on every night. much love to dr. drew... ps did you know he has triplets? something to be said for that ;)

Dr. Drew so doesn't look 47, either. I should add him to the hotties thread. :laugh:

No, I never listened to LovePhone, just LoveLine. I do watch Sue Johanson, though. I love that chick and the Hot Bag is priceless.

http://www.aol.com.br/client/galeria...ohanson_f1.jpg

:thumbsup:


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