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gldstwmn 02-18-2005 12:21 AM

House panel approves measure to make abortion a felony
 
PIERRE, S.D. - Abortion should be a crime in South Dakota if states are given the right to outlaw the medical procedure, a House panel recommended Friday.

The State Affairs Committee unanimously approved HB1249, which would make it a felony to do abortions if Roe v. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, is overturned. The bill would allow exceptions in cases where a pregnant woman's life is at risk.

Those who do abortions could face up to two years in prison and a $2,000 fine.

The committee changed the bill to remove a provision that would have made it a crime to advise women to seek abortions.

Rep. Joel Dykstra, R-Canton, the bill's prime sponsor, said it is designed to protect the rights of fetuses in case states are given the right to regulate abortion.

Rachel Hansen of the South Dakota Right to Life Committee, which helped draft the bill, said abortion rights supporters are gearing up for a fight in case the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade.

"In South Dakota, House Bill 1249 would throw a monkey wrench right in the middle of that strategy," Hansen said.

Rob Regier of the South Dakota Family Policy Council urged the committee to pass the bill.

"Send a message that South Dakota is more than just prepared to protect the unborn, but eager to," Regier said.

Kate Looby of Planned Parenthood said the bill is one of the most extreme measures she has seen. The measure would tie physicians' hands and ignore women's ability to make decisions for themselves, she said.

"Making abortion illegal never has and never will stop women from having abortions," Looby said, urging the committee to reject the bill.

Jennifer Ring of the American Civil Liberties Union said the bill makes no provisions for abortions in cases where a woman's health is at risk or a fetus develops a potentially fatal condition. In such cases, women would be forced to allow the pregnancy to develop until it threatens their lives, Ring said.

HB1249 goes now to the House floor.

http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aber...s/10877880.htm

Brwn_eyes0511 02-18-2005 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
PIERRE, S.D. - Abortion should be a crime in South Dakota if states are given the right to outlaw the medical procedure, a House panel recommended Friday.

The State Affairs Committee unanimously approved HB1249, which would make it a felony to do abortions if Roe v. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, is overturned. The bill would allow exceptions in cases where a pregnant woman's life is at risk.

Those who do abortions could face up to two years in prison and a $2,000 fine.

The committee changed the bill to remove a provision that would have made it a crime to advise women to seek abortions.

Rep. Joel Dykstra, R-Canton, the bill's prime sponsor, said it is designed to protect the rights of fetuses in case states are given the right to regulate abortion.

Rachel Hansen of the South Dakota Right to Life Committee, which helped draft the bill, said abortion rights supporters are gearing up for a fight in case the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade.

"In South Dakota, House Bill 1249 would throw a monkey wrench right in the middle of that strategy," Hansen said.

Rob Regier of the South Dakota Family Policy Council urged the committee to pass the bill.

"Send a message that South Dakota is more than just prepared to protect the unborn, but eager to," Regier said.

Kate Looby of Planned Parenthood said the bill is one of the most extreme measures she has seen. The measure would tie physicians' hands and ignore women's ability to make decisions for themselves, she said.

"Making abortion illegal never has and never will stop women from having abortions," Looby said, urging the committee to reject the bill.

Jennifer Ring of the American Civil Liberties Union said the bill makes no provisions for abortions in cases where a woman's health is at risk or a fetus develops a potentially fatal condition. In such cases, women would be forced to allow the pregnancy to develop until it threatens their lives, Ring said.

HB1249 goes now to the House floor.

http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aber...s/10877880.htm

Abortion should be a sate decision, what a crock! I have never heard of that one before. :rolleyes:

gldstwmn 02-18-2005 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511
Abortion should be a sate decision, what a crock! I have never heard of that one before. :rolleyes:

No, it's a woman's choice what to do with her own body, not the state.

strandinthewind 02-18-2005 12:27 AM

Is it predicted to pass?

I think we are going to see alot of this. It is all irrelevant if Roe holds. AND - interestingly, I am unsure of the ramifications of passing a law that is illegal? I think a Federal Court could enjoin that - but I do not really know.

strandinthewind 02-18-2005 12:29 AM

A google search of "state legislature abortion bill" reveals a myriad of articles on this issue in other states.

strandinthewind 02-18-2005 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lux
Oh surely there's no problem with the state inviting itself into a woman's uterus? Perhaps they can enjoy a little tea party whilst they're in there.


Esp. when many of them would not hesitate to get one for their mistress or daughter :rolleyes:

gldstwmn 02-18-2005 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
A google search of "state legislature abortion bill" reveals a myriad of articles on this issue in other states.

It's the newest fad. Besides fake news, now we've got preemptive war and preemptive laws. What next?

strandinthewind 02-18-2005 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
It's the newest fad. Besides fake news, now we've got preemptive war and preemptive laws. What next?


apparently a way to drive us three trillion in debt to buy a "solution" that addresses no way to fix SS :rolleyes:

77Rumours77 02-18-2005 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
apparently a way to drive us three trillion in debt to buy a "solution" that addresses no way to fix SS :rolleyes:

O Man! I just love the Bush administration! :mad: :rolleyes:

Brwn_eyes0511 02-18-2005 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
No, it's a woman's choice what to do with her own body, not the state.

Even though its not herself she is killing when she has the abortion? A" pregnant woman is responsible for more than just herself. It's not "ME ME ME" moment.

Brwn_eyes0511 02-18-2005 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 77Rumours77
O Man! I just love the Bush administration! :mad: :rolleyes:

Cause you know its the Bush administrations fault! Everything is. :rolleyes:

Gypsy-Rhiannon 02-18-2005 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
PIERRE, S.D. - Abortion should be a crime in South Dakota if states are given the right to outlaw the medical procedure, a House panel recommended Friday.

The State Affairs Committee unanimously approved HB1249, which would make it a felony to do abortions if Roe v. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, is overturned. The bill would allow exceptions in cases where a pregnant woman's life is at risk.

Those who do abortions could face up to two years in prison and a $2,000 fine.

The committee changed the bill to remove a provision that would have made it a crime to advise women to seek abortions.

Rep. Joel Dykstra, R-Canton, the bill's prime sponsor, said it is designed to protect the rights of fetuses in case states are given the right to regulate abortion.

Rachel Hansen of the South Dakota Right to Life Committee, which helped draft the bill, said abortion rights supporters are gearing up for a fight in case the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade.

"In South Dakota, House Bill 1249 would throw a monkey wrench right in the middle of that strategy," Hansen said.

Rob Regier of the South Dakota Family Policy Council urged the committee to pass the bill.

"Send a message that South Dakota is more than just prepared to protect the unborn, but eager to," Regier said.

Kate Looby of Planned Parenthood said the bill is one of the most extreme measures she has seen. The measure would tie physicians' hands and ignore women's ability to make decisions for themselves, she said.

"Making abortion illegal never has and never will stop women from having abortions," Looby said, urging the committee to reject the bill.

Jennifer Ring of the American Civil Liberties Union said the bill makes no provisions for abortions in cases where a woman's health is at risk or a fetus develops a potentially fatal condition. In such cases, women would be forced to allow the pregnancy to develop until it threatens their lives, Ring said.

HB1249 goes now to the House floor.

http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aber...s/10877880.htm

It's when I read tripe like this that I thank god I'm British.

Gypsy-Rhiannon 02-18-2005 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511
Even though its not herself she is killing when she has the abortion? A" pregnant woman is responsible for more than just herself. It's not "ME ME ME" moment.

Sometimes it has to be a 'me me me' moment.

Jennifer Ring of the American Civil Liberties Union said the bill makes no provisions for abortions in cases where a woman's health is at risk or a fetus develops a potentially fatal condition. In such cases, women would be forced to allow the pregnancy to develop until it threatens their lives, Ring said.

Ah.. why bother...

tynan88 02-18-2005 05:17 AM

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No no no Pip, you're bringing logic into the equation.
Now Now Lux please no rational thinking on an issue, u might hurt someone. I agree with a woman's right to choose, I don't think I would be able to handle i personally, but i am no in that position, everyone should have a right to choose.

strandinthewind 02-18-2005 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 77Rumours77
O Man! I just love the Bush administration! :mad: :rolleyes:

But, for a few bills, Pat Robertson will assure you JESUS is on W's side so its okay :rolleyes:


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