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ontheEdgeof17 02-16-2005 06:19 PM

Best/Worst Career Moves
 
What were Stevie's best and worst career moves?


For me, her best move was going solo. Without that decision, most of her songs would never had made the light of day.


Worst: Not being around during the Tango sessions. "Better" (I love all three, btw) songs on her behalf and more backing vocals would have really skyrocketed the album....and maybe the fight between Lindsey wouldn't have happened if she was there more often to have the right for more input, and he would have stayed....maybe. Just my thought on that.

Hawkeye 02-16-2005 06:24 PM

Going Solo was great for HER maybe, but it also (not just her though) kind of destroyed Fleetwood Mac in the 80's. All the best songs were going to solo projects. 2 albums in 10 years? That sounds like today's standards, and they were in their 30's then.

catinthedark 02-16-2005 08:35 PM

Best Move: Well, I guess it'd be a little obvious to say joining Fleetwood Mac.

So... inviting DH and TP to sing with her on her first solo album. Gave her credibility, and showed she didn't think herself too important, famous, above-all-others. Plus, I'm sure they gave her great advice.


Worst Move: Rupert Hine. What a nightmare.

amber 02-16-2005 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by catinthedark
Best Move: Well, I guess it'd be a little obvious to say joining Fleetwood Mac.

So... inviting DH and TP to sing with her on her first solo album. Gave her credibility, and showed she didn't think herself too important, famous, above-all-others. Plus, I'm sure they gave her great advice.


Worst Move: Rupert Hine. What a nightmare.

Good Call. her work with TP is some of my favorite, evah.
it's hard to say as to her worst moves. I think her solo career was a good move, as well. I think the coke was probably a bad move, as it (IMO) degraded her lyrical abilities considerably. i can't be positive that is true, but it seems that *most* of her most cohesive, concise, beautiful lyrics were written before the most coked out years. :shrug: But then again, maybe if there was no coke, there wouldn't have been some of the over the top indulgent live vocal performances that I love Oh so much. :shrug:

ontheEdgeof17 02-16-2005 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
But then again, maybe if there was no coke, there wouldn't have been some of the over the top indulgent live vocal performances that I love Oh so much. :shrug:


Remember........no coke = no Sister Honey :lol:

amber 02-16-2005 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
Remember........no coke = no Sister Honey :lol:

:lol: :laugh: :lol:
Oh, no! *shudder* What would the world be without "well you will LIKE! SISTER HONEY! She will help you, make up your mind!"
Thanks for reinforcing my perspective on that!!! :laugh:
I also have to say, perhaps, no coke, no debauched GDW Japan! :laugh:
and don't even get me started about the "squat and shake booty tambourine slap" of Golden n Braid on the Bella Donna tour! :laugh:

GypsySorcerer 02-16-2005 09:19 PM

I agree that her work with Petty is among her best career moves. I also think her touring for the BD album (no matter how briefly) was a smart move.

Worst - Releasing an album recorded in the haze of Klonopin.

ontheEdgeof17 02-16-2005 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
:lol: :laugh: :lol:
Oh, no! *shudder*
Thanks for reinforcing my perspective on that!!! :laugh:
I also have to say, perhaps, no coke, no debauched GDW Japan! :laugh:
and don't even get me started about the "squat and shake booty tambourine slap" of Golden n Braid on the Bella Donna tour! :laugh:


I think the problem arose when it became more than recreational. It was like brushing teeth for her.....after every meal. That wasn't cool. I'm glad she kicked the habit.

Another bad career move was going straight black. I think (and we all agree) that color does wonders for a person's career. ;)

amber 02-16-2005 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
I think the problem arose when it became more than recreational. It was like brushing teeth for her.....after every meal. That wasn't cool. I'm glad she kicked the habit.

Another bad career move was going straight black. I think (and we all agree) that color does wonders for a person's career. ;)

Well, I loves me some black, but, I don't think anyone should wear the same thing all the time. There should be some colors, and mostly, COULD YOU WEAR SOMETHING DIFFERENT? SOMETHING MORE FLATTERING? :lol:
God, I would go nuts if I wore the same thing every day. Half of the fun of being a rock star is that you get to wear anything you want, anytime, and millions of people see it. Hello? I mean, sesly, mostly why I'd want to be a rock star is to be able to wear a bunch of crazy sh** to my "job". :nod: :laugh: Maybe when you wake up from your coke binge, you don't have the energy to pick out clothes... :D JK.

skcin 02-16-2005 10:44 PM

Best - Hooking up with, then breaking up with Lindsey! I know, I know it's not like their relationship was directly a "career move" or anything. But damn, he has fueled her songwriting for years. We wouldn't have half her tunes (or maybe more, but I'm not going to start that debate right now!) if it weren't for their relationship - good times and bad.

Also - agreeing to reunite for The Dance - I don't know if she needed much convincing, really, but it was a good move.

Worst Putting out Street Angel when she herself said it was not good. I know she really didn't have a choice, I believe she was under contract & had to release it & that she tried to "fix it" after she got out of rehab & everything else. But its mediocrity (sp?) really must have made people think she was washed up. Of course, the tour was great but who knew except diehard fans.

ShangriLaTroubl 02-16-2005 11:13 PM

Best - I agree making Bella Donna...working with Sheryl Crow...whether u love her work with Sheryl or not I think it helped Stevie come back...MANY Sheryl fans bought TISL and other works of Stevie, because of hearing about her through her work with Stevie--plus Stevie garnered many guest TV appearances from being friends with Sheryl--as well as many mentions in hundreds of Sheryl interviews...I think it all worked out for the best


Worst - Signing to Reprise in 98


Chris

Kelly 02-17-2005 07:24 AM

BEST.......working with Tom, getting Jimmy to produce her first couple of solo albums...really working Silver Springs the night they recorded the Dance...

Worst.....Rupert Hine...getting hooked on the booze and coke (although it has its positive points too like loss of her inhabitions)..allowing her bro to run her fan club...not writing an autobiography....not getting her reissues out more quickly........not releasing BN on cd. (stupid move for Lindsey too..they should do it for their fans, not the sales)



Just curious Chris...why was signing with Reprise in 98 a bad move for Stevie?

David 02-17-2005 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
What were Stevie's best and worst career moves?

Best: The decision to join Fleetwood Mac, thereby writing herself into the history of American popular music.

Worst: Kind of an ongoing thing -- the decision to tour as a solo act eight separate years. That combined with another seven years spent on Fleetwood Mac tours, plus concert appearances scattered throughout an additional four years, all means that over the last 23 years, Stevie has performed 21 out of those 23 years (the only years I don't remember her doing anything were 1984 & 1993). I think she has oversaturated the market with her own appearances & touring, & I don't think it's been especially good for her career in some ways. It's probably been a two-edged sword.

HejiraNYC 02-17-2005 02:17 PM

BEST: Trying to plagiarize Prince's "Little Red Corvette."

WORST: Ugh, where to begin?! a) smoking, b) Jon Bon Jovi, c) Brett Michaels, d) Mike "Desert Angel" Campbell, e) "Tango in the Night" concert video, f) "Just Like a Woman" and "Jane," g) Tango-OSOTM-era pirate hats, h) Frankenbocks, i) Sheryl Crow (I love Sheryl Crow as an artist, but she blows chunks as a producer :eek: ), j) leaving "Sleeping Angel" off of Bella Donna.

So what's up with all the Rupert Hine hatred??

NicksIllume 02-17-2005 02:22 PM

BEST: All of the above mentioned.

WORST: Some of the above mentioned. Singing with Jesse Camp on My Little Saviour...wtf, Stevie?


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